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Karen: I would say look for the positive in your life and as you're looking for the positive reach out and grab a hand for support because we can do this together.

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Carl: Hello this is Carl Wagner with Beat Cancer and I have here one of our wonderful coaches Karen Holmes and I’m going to let her talk to you about her journey with cancer and how she got to come to us and become a cancer coach. With that, Karen Holmes.

Karen: Hi, thank you, Carl It's wonderful to be here.

Carl: Welcome.

Karen: I mean that with a full heart and gratitude because being alive and being vital and full of energy is the message that I want to convey to all of the people who are experiencing cancer or who have experienced cancer as I did. It's a journey and it's a wonderful time in my life, to be able to come back and to coach other people during their cancer journey as they heal and recover from cancer. I came to being a cancer coach after I experienced inflammatory breast cancer, and that was back in 2011. I’ve been on this recovery journey for a long time, I feel very happy that I’m here and the journey that I have been on started when I found out that I had obviously breast cancer.

I was told that I was going to get chemotherapy, I was going to have surgery, and I was going to have radiation.  And all of that seemed rather intimidating, and I did go through all of that. But during that time period, I did a lot of research. I did a lot of reading about the other holistic practices that would be helpful, that would support me through my cancer recovery. And for me, those were the most important steps that I could take. That I could be my own cancer advocate.  Although, I didn't know anything about cancer coaches at the time and so I developed some of the strategies that I’ve learned and I’ve read about in the beat cancer dot org program. And so, that all comes around when I finished my medical treatments, and I’ll say that they cured me, and that's in my story. That I became this...okay you're done with all the treatments, you're done with the radiation fine we'll see you in six months. Then it was now, what do I do?

That now what do I do, came to me as dance. I knew that food and movement were the best solutions to getting my vitality back.  So, I’ll say that dance brought me back to life, and that's where my recovery journey really begins because I knew that I had to change my lifestyle. I knew that I wanted to become somebody who was alive and vibrant and not just somebody who was sitting around wondering what to do next. For me, the dance enlightened my life in fact, I tell people I retired from my job and I flew to Maui and I danced. And that's true, and I came home from Maui and I didn't go back to work. I didn't go back to the career that I’d had for 32 years. Instead, I began this journey of finding out what I wanted to do next and how I could support particularly other women in their breast cancer journey and that's where my focus is. And so, I became a dance teacher facilitator. I facilitate something called Azul, which is a conscious movement dance. now you're going to ask me, what is Azul?

Carl: What is Azul?

Karen:  Conscious dance is really awakening one's heart and awakening what's inside of you. Through the dance, I was able to embody all of the feelings that Ii was going through. It's somewhat, and I've talked to other women they agree. It's somewhat like PTSD, only for cancer patients, where you figure out that wow, I've gone through all my treatments, I'm supposed to be okay and now I realize what I’ve gone through and what I need to do to change. Concurrently, I changed my eating habits and I did a lot of internal work to figure out where my path was going to go. That path led me to cancer coaching and that's where I am today. To really believe in the support for other women.  I want to be able to support other women in their recovery.  I think it's really important to make that connection one-on-one.  That's what really keeps us alive, that's what motivates us, inspires us to become all that we can be. That once we've gone through this cancer treatment, we have the opportunity to change our lives.

I tell people breast cancer was the worst thing and the best thing that ever happened to me. It was the worst thing because I don't wish it on anybody. It's not a pleasant journey, it can be full of suffering and angst.  And yet, what it gave me was gratitude for my life. It gave me the opportunity to change, reach out to people, to become somebody alive, somebody who can dance her way into freedom of all possibilities and ways of being.

Before I logged on to do this interview, I danced for an hour. It gave me that insight as to where I wanted to go and what I wanted to say. That’s where I am today. Here I am as a cancer coach. I've spent the past few months clarifying my vision. When I was going through my cancer treatments, they say have a positive vision, so my positive vision at the time was running down the coast of the Pacific Ocean. I was having a new little grandson at the time and with my hair in a ponytail so my hair would be grown and so that was the vision. The vision that I have created now, is one of a three-part vision that I created in something called pillars of healing and that's become my offering to breast cancer and cancer patients, and women who are recovering from cancer.

So, in the pillars of healing, I offer three opportunities and the first one is a one-on-one cancer coach. Call me up, text me, send me an email, and I will do a free discovery call with you that we can see what it is you as an individual need. I think of you as my...I have created Lily; I have a blog on my website that lily is the person that I like to talk to. And for her I say, I offer you that one-on-one individual assistance, guidance, I will listen and we can move forward together complementing whatever medical treatment you prefer to take. So, that's the one-on-one coaching. The other two other pieces...and the second pillar is really the dance, and offering dance classes and opportunities for women experiencing cancer. The kind of dance that I do, which is Azul, is very freeing. It can be done by anybody and I say anybody regardless of one's physical attributes, because it's something that you bring from inside.

Azul is not something that you're going to have choreographed steps. It's I play music and I facilitate and you move your body to whatever comes up. You listen to your body and say oh I’m going to allow this particular movement or something comes up and you'll say I understand where I’m going now.  So, that movement which I believe is critical to our healthy well-being, it really is. If you had to ask me what are the three things that would be movement and what we put in our bodies, food, and some kind of connection with...that I want to say spiritual or guidance through meditation or whatever you choose to take. That those are the three big things that are going to heal us. And that leads me to the third pillar.

The third pillar is one where I am available to do presentations in person at some point or online for people on A how to prevent cancer or what are some of the things that you can do if you are experiencing cancer or somebody you know and love. Because I believe that all of us have known someone who has had a cancer journey.  So those are the three pillars. The one-on-one consultation. the dancing opportunities through Azul and the third one is I am available to give presentations to your organization, to your group, to your meeting, it can be a short one, it can be a fairly lengthy one, and it's really geared to what the organization or your group needs and wants. On my website which is pillars of healing dot org, I give a list of five things but I’m very happy to tailor any kind of presentation using the things that I believe are truly needed and wanted and beneficial to people who experience cancer. So, that in short, is really what pillars of healing are all about.

Carl: Well there's a lot to unpack there, but I want to say congratulations first of all for sharing your journey and also getting through from what I was reading a 45 chance of healing and basically going through all the big three, the surgery, the chemotherapy, and radiation and going through all the hardships that go along with that losing your hair and just a fear to finding your life purpose and sharing with others I think it's wonderful. Thank you so much for all of that.

I always laughed when you talked about the Azul being something anybody could do because when I dance and I’m expressing myself you better stand back a little bit because you might get knocked over by accident. I’m not a good dancer so I was just trying to imagine that but that's wonderful. So, how long have you been a coach now?

Karen: It's coming up on a year.

Carl: Wow, terrific.

Karen: It’s coming up on a year, I do believe that the coach in me stems from...I was in education and had a really nice career and I am very available to listen to people. So, the coaching just falls into line with what I have done for a very long time and being able to help people from where they are to what they want to become and that's in essence what a coach does.

Carl: Yeah, so it's a natural progression for you and you have such a soothing voice, I have told you. I think even if people talk to you on the phone and didn't see you or could be an interactive person, I think just that calming voice and like you said I’m here to talk to and to listen. I think a lot of people are missing that, they don't get that in the traditional medical treatment. If they're going through traditional medical treatment, I think it's really great to take on a coach. Somebody who's there to listen to you and guide you, that's wonderful.

Karen: I think it's really important when I'm coaching or anybody is coaching, to listen to what the person who's going through the experience wants to do like. I became my own advocate because I studied and I read a lot and I looked at the research and if somebody had been there to guide me, and tell me that there was research and give me the information I would have been able to move forward may be faster and a little deeper. I truly believe that there's a lot of information out there, and a lot of research that's been done and I have to say...repeat myself, that I think it's the food piece is really important. I changed the way I ate, I began to dance, I began to look forward to life and if we look at the research what it shows us, is the people who are the survivors, or the people who move forward, are the ones who say okay I have cancer and I’m still going to be alive and well and full of energy.  It's that vitality...when I was going through my treatments, a dear friend said to me. She said, somebody, has to be on the winning side and I think that's you and so I had to believe that too.

And that hope and inspiration that I can give to other people is so important because I’ve been through...that I’ve walked those steps and I know that on a daily basis it’s not easy. But yet, there's hope. There's hope at the end as we graduate from the medical treatment. That we don't graduate from a way of life. What I clearly see with the holistic practices, is that there is good healthy living for anybody, for everybody, that's what I believe gives us that push to become more of who we can be.

Carl: And you're a wonderful role model for people that have been through it and have this great fear of recurrence. That's a big deal, people like you said, what do I do now? Now that my medical treatment is done, they just pushed me out of the nest, so to speak and now you have to fly and you don't know what to do exactly, sorry I didn't mean to cut you off.

Karen: No, that's okay, because I was thinking of the word that you use, recurrence, and I hear that a lot.  I’m fearful of recurrence and these steps that we can take as individuals and as a group, to ward off that recurrence, I think are important and in your cancer journey just making it through those treatments but then setting up a lifestyle that will tell those little cancer cells not to come back.  We have them floating around in our body but we don't need them to reoccur, and that's the lifestyle, that's the coaching that we can do on an ongoing basis.  Whether we're one year, two years, 10 years, 20 years, out from our treatment. That our lifestyle changes and our view of life become more positive, that we can be filled with gratitude on a daily basis and that becomes the message that I really hope that people will take.

Carl: Yeah, a change of lifestyle is so important and some people don't change. You're a wonderful role model of how you can go from one life and go through cancer and make your cancer mean something. Take it to the next level and show people yes, you can completely change your life. Maybe this new life will be a better life than the old life, but sometimes that wake-up call is all you need.

Karen:  It can and you can create that better life you and I and other people have that, I want to say opportunity, to create a better life and I'm here to help other people do that. That's my function as a coach.  It can be just a tiny thing because if you're on a street corner and you take just one step to the left or one step to the right it can change your path. So, we start out with tiny steps that are very doable in your life, in my life that's what happened.  And from that, you can make other changes and you see the possibilities.  You see how it can change you, you can also see the benefits of some of these changes.

Carl: Yeah, well some of the benefits you...I hate to say you can't see because it's like a prevention measure, you're talking about preventing.  When you eat better, some people just don't see it but they don't realize how eating in a bad way is negatively impacting their life.  And two, with the movement, the dance people don't realize how critical that is.  I worked with a cancer patient or a former cancer patient when he had some lymph nodes taken out and it was vital for him to do things with his arms which he wouldn't normally do to get the juices flowing because of the lymph nodes.  so yeah

Karen: I think many women particularly those who've had breast cancer are fearful of the lymphedema that can occur. There is so much that one can do to contain the lymphedema that it is not just putting on a sleeve.  And there's so much you can do with movement, with the massaging, with some of the other things that are recommended. Those are the little touches, the little changes that really can change your life.  I had to smile about the eating piece because for me, when I changed the way I ate, I could feel the difference. I could feel...I also have to say I lost 50 pounds.

Carl: Congratulations.

Karen:  So, that was a big deal. That was huge. And when I looked at what I was eating, I could see why cancer had a field day. So, little by little I changed it. It didn't happen overnight, because it's hard to change what you eat but I did it and I would be delighted to help somebody else do the same thing.  And you have to see where it is that you or your client wants to move. Some people are very happy with what they eat and some people are very willing to change little by little. You don't do it overnight as I said but there are small changes. As for the dance, I dance because I love to dance.    I also know that anybody can dance and most people like music. So, you can move to the music in any way. I also want to state that it's very important to find the movement that your body enjoys. If you don't enjoy running or you don't enjoy yoga, if you don't enjoy lifting weights, chances are you're not going to do it over the long term and that's what we're looking at.  I think it's important to discover what the rhythm of your body responds to.  Whether it's a walk outside. Whether it's on an elliptical in a gym and some of the gyms are open and closed right now. Whether it's bike riding with your son or daughter or a partner. Those are the kinds of things that we can discover, will resonate with your body.

I go back to the lymphedema piece. One of the things that I learned in my recovery was that I was very careful to build my arm to a state where it had the muscle tone. Where it had the ability to have full range of motion and the lymphedema, I was really careful with but I got that arm so that it is today as strong as it can be today, and that's very important. so that's something to work with, with a lot of people.

Carl: Thank you so much, I appreciate that.  People don't realize what someone goes through when you say breast cancer.  They don't think anything's happening to their arms.  So, the eating part...certainly people can feel that benefit by just internalizing the fact that they're changing their internal terrain and making their body an inhospitable environment for cancer to thrive.  When they eat the wrong way, they make their bodies a place where cancer likes to live.  And I like what you said about doing something that people do for a long haul.  It's like you said, it's a lifestyle or making...that's so impactful and I hope people get that message, that it's the long haul.

You have covered most of my questions but I do want to ask, when you're taking the course, was there something that stood out for you or you learned that you didn't really know before?  Something that really added to your program?

Karen: When I did the beat cancer program, I found first of all that is synthesized and brought together a lot of the information that I had picked up along the way.  And so, it is put in one place, I want to say an encyclopedia, a compilation of the practices in which I believe. And to add to that, it was backed up by research and that's very important to show that there is definite research that there is scientific evidence for these holistic practices. Because when you talk to people, they go oh that's just what somebody's saying and that's really not true.  What we're saying is these practices have developed out of research, out of scientific data, that shows how we can prevent cancer and how we can work with our cancer recovery and that it's not simply what somebody is putting forth in what they think.  But we know that it helps us to see that it's helped people in all different countries and a variety of different cancers, in different stages of the cancer.  So that research piece really was important for me.

Carl: Yeah, people don't realize that.  Susan was doing that for 35 years. This is before she ever made a course out of it, so it's not only the science that she researched but it was put into practice for 35 years of helping people.  Oh, I did notice that you said the pillars of healing dot org, is that a non-profit?

Karen: No, well it probably will be a non-profit and so I had a choice of what I was going to name this. I was advised that I could use the dot org and rather than the dot com so that's where it is.

Carl: Okay, yeah. Whenever I see a dot org, I think right away non-profit.

Karen:  Well I will be working with people to build, what I want to say a business, but a business that really goes back into some of the cancer research, some of the cancer organizations that I believe are doing great work.

Carl: Good for you. Well, look at that, a whole new you. Who knew?

Karen:  It's great, well you ask for like that a one-word aha moment, I think it's gratitude, I think it's vitality, I think it's inspiration, and that's for me moving toward a healthy life for cancer clients, cancer...I want to say people who have experienced cancer, because it's not just people who are going through treatment now, but who have in the past and want to make their lives better. If they've stopped treatments and now wondering what they're going to do, how can I have a good life without a recurrence? That's also important.

Carl: Live in victory and not fear.

Karen: That's so important, isn't it?  That you live in a positive world and sometimes that's difficult to do.

Carl: Especially if you don't have anybody telling you there's another way. So many people their family members just push them towards the doctors and when the doctors are done with them, they push them back. And they don't have anybody like you to say they look, there's a different type of life.

Karen: Or they revert back to what they've been doing before they got the cancer. Worst case scenario, if we revert back to that state, chances are it would recur. So, we move forward, we move towards that better lifestyle, that healthier lifestyle.

Carl: Okay so I'm going to sum it up here because I think you did a great job of covering everything. So, just a one bonus question, if there is one tip that you could give and then you gave some great golden nuggets all throughout, I mean I could pull out five or six different things I can make sound bites out of.  But if you had one tip, what would that be?

Karen: I'm talking to your lily; you are part of my blog and I do tips for Lilly and letters to lily.  lily I would say look for the positive in your life and as you're looking for the positive reach out, reach out and grab a hand for support because we can do this together.

Carl: Good one. Well, thank you so much.  Is there anything else you would like to add?

Karen:  Check out and my email is on there and my phone numbers on there. I'm really good about answering emails and would love to connect with you and do a discovery call and see where we can get together...what makes sense for the two of us to work through a cancer journey together.

Carl: I'm glad you mentioned that.  I'll put the links in the show notes for YouTube, but some people listen on podcast and it's great to mention that verbally, thank you. All right, thank you so much for your time.

Karen:  Thank you for this opportunity.  I really appreciate what Beat Cancer is doing and has done for me and other cancer coaches. I think it's really important that it become and stay a vital organization in the community.

Carl: It's a blessing for me to meet the coaches. I had a great time meeting you and again you are going to be a rock star with that soothing voice and positive attitude and being such a good role model, and I think that's great.

Karen: Thank you.

Carl: You're welcome.

Karen: I’ve been looking forward to this for quite a while.

Car Wagner: Yeah, sorry about the delay COVID-19 really just threw a monkey ranch in.

Karen:  Well, to you and everybody else.  But it gave me an opportunity to clarify what I wanted to do so it was good for all of us.

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Hello! My name is Arti Kumar-Jain. I am a Certified Holistic Cancer Coach. My journey began when my mom was diagnosed with Ovarian Cancer Stage IV in February 2018. As anyone knows in the cancer journey, endless research and constant looking for answers is sought out. The common theme of nutrition and reduction of stress were common elements found in my research. Although my mom passed in August 2019, her spirit lives in me. I am driven to be of assistance to those diagnosed with cancer, friends, family members, and community is part of my in becoming a Cancer Coach. Being of East Asian origin, holistic healing through mind, body, and spirit alliance is crucial and therefore this program at is the perfect fit. My focus and passion on health, wellness, and nutrition and living abundantly have come through the formation of the non-profit, Diya Holistic Life Care. I also provide Coaching services and tutoring for children and families through Love & Light 4 Kidz LLC. I am here with you on this journey and know that I am a holding space for you!


Artie: You do have some time to think, yes, the tumors are growing...I'm talking about active diagnosis. You do have time to think but oftentimes what ends up happening is, anxiety for everybody kicks in and so having somebody on your side like a coach or someone that can help you to realize you do have choices.  And choices embody transformation, right? If we get pigeonholed in something, then our power is taken away. I just want to remind people we do have lots of choices. We just have to be presented with them on the plate.

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Carl: This is Carl Wagner. I'm here with, the center for advancement in cancer education and we have one of our great coaches, Artie Kumar Jing. Is that correct?  Good, I got it thank you.  Instead of introducing Artie, I'm going to let her tell you who she is and what all the initials are behind your name. You have a lot of them.

Artie:  There are a lot of them but that doesn't mean much until you can make something of it.  Yes, my name’s Artie: and the first role that I can tell you is that I am a mom of two girls that are currently four and six and I got into's been about a year's worth of a journey getting into coaching, especially holistic cancer care. I have had my certification now for about four months and I have been...I started my journey actually when it comes to education, a long time ago, about 20 years ago.

I started working in preschools then I switched into working in elementary schools, got an undergrad in psychology, and did a minor in conflict resolution.  And along my journey, I always said that I especially would leave the classroom if I was paying attention to other needs for the kids besides the pedagogy of teaching.  Then I went into clinical counseling, Mental Health counseling worked in private practices, in hospital settings, in different clinical settings.

And then along the trip...I call it a trip because I really feel like the journey is a trip. I got married and when my family moved back to Virginia, we had kind of moved all over and worked also in another clinical facility. But then I decided I wanted to stay home with my girls.  And my mom who lived in Northern Virginia moved closer to us and she was actually diagnosed with ovarian cancer stage four, back in February of 2018. So, like anyone, when that takes place in your home or whatever. You go through research, you talk to everybody and anybody, you are continually trying to figure out how to beat this thing. So, regardless of beating or not beating, you do make catastrophic changes really quickly.  My mom made a lot of them, I also side by side made some changes.  looked a lot into nutrition, into holistic health and of course, being of Indian origin, my mom was already into some of that stuff. I have always looked into it, but it became very apparent in the research that the holistic approach of mind, body, spirit needs to be in place.

Carl: So, that's what brought you to beat cancer then?  Or did you look at other things first?

Artie:  Oh no, sorry.  She did pass but long story short in her passing, she had written some life stages down in one of her books, and I looked at it and I was like I realized I was supposed to do more with just her journey but to help others. And that's when I looked up to beat just came to me; the coaching module was going to be implemented because I love coaching. I love therapy too, but coaching is more about helping that person really meeting their goals and their objectives to help them with that forward momentum.  And so, the beat cancer came up and it was right when I read that descriptor.

I didn't even look anywhere else, I just knew that holistic piece of mind, body, spirit, knowing the story behind the founding of it, knowing that there was a personal element touched for her journey, for Dr. Silverstein’s journey. And then knowing everyone who's on and a part of that whole entity it didn't take me long.  I literally signed up the day that I saw the website, there was no question that it was the right fit.

Carl:  Now I see that you also have your own non-profit is that correct?

Artie: Yes.

Carl:  Okay, and go ahead tell us a little bit about that.

Artie: Sure, the non-profit actually is coaching through the lifespan. We're looking at health coaching and career coaching.  But cancer coaching is a module where I feel of course that it's important to help people in disease prevention and also preventative care.  But also, for those who are in this cycle and we also support end-of-life care through coordination with hospice and through palliative care in different organizations. The goal is to make it on a sliding scale and affordable to folks, so currently, we are working on getting some grants it's in its infancy stage so a lot of it's just starting to build.

Carl: Wait a minute is this the kid’s nonprofit?

Artie:  No, this is the...the kids are a business.

Carl: Okay, I thought that was an NPO, but that's your website and that's your Instagram?

Artie:  Yes, the website is under development but the Instagram and the Facebook page are all live.

Carl: Okay, and do you want to tell us a little bit about that too?

Artie: Sure, lovingly for kids is a module where we provide webinars and seminars for organizations as well as for parents and families. Those who are in therapy and may need a module of coaching, we provide those services. We also provide tutoring.  I'm currently...right now we're actually looking at a lot of virtual workshops and after school programs in conjunction with other organizations.  That website is actually currently operating, I apologize it is the non-profit website that is under development.

Carl:  Right, I didn't even know about that.  I thought it was just...I was just talking about the kid’s website. That's a surprise to me, that's great.  I have to look at my questions here, excuse me I’m sorry we're both new at this. When you went through the course what did you find helpful that you probably didn't know?

Artie:  I actually thought it was really helpful that we so I have had this background of nutrition and looking into nutrition. But I thought it was really Right, I good to have the background of the root cause. For instance, I had...for my mom, we had looked into other avenues.  What could have been the cause? We went to a naturopath and the possibility of maybe hormones or whatnot.  But to get the actual descriptors, behind all of these different types of cancers and what we need to examine. We talk about stress on the body, but then, what particular stressors, for that particular cancer. It's almost like you could target that organ and how to really build it up to really reduce that tumor growth or whatnot.  That was extremely helpful and very beneficial. Because it was the first time that I got a chance ever to examine the root cause.

Carl:  Yeah, two things that you mentioned, something about meeting people where they are and what you were just talking about, then trying to find the root cause. I think it's very interesting, that there is no one-size-fits-all approach and that's one thing that I think is different about our course.  It's not a diet book, it's not a cookie-cutter program, or a special protocol.  It's about observing people and being able to coach them through from wherever they're at. What did you think was your favorite part of the course that helped you in your coaching?

Artie:  I really have to tell you all the nutrition and stuff.  It's so hard, Carl because of the fact that everything has been leading to this holistic mind, body, spirit, and taking care of our body.  Feeding it well and then stress reduction and that kind of thing.  The nutrition pieces are really helping because it just solidified more and more of the research that has already been conducted. But knowing that this institute has already far exceeded when they've been following this module for a long time.  Even before, some people are now getting on the boat to examine what dairy does to the body or to examine how it does look to eat more cleanly.

That was when I realized that for me, that’s how we can treat this cancer embodiment of preventative and that was really empowering.  Because then, I also feel like...especially in my line of work, where it can, it is about wellness but then preventative wellness and also meeting the person if they are diagnosed.  How we can assist them if they want to make some changes or whatnot.

Carl: Right, I think an important thing to know if people are just seeing these coaching videos for the first time, is that we don't tell people not to go to their doctors or to follow a doctor's advice.  But we do help them get their bodies into the best possible situation to heal properly.  Because we don't say we cure cancer. The body cures cancer and even doctors can't say they cure cancer.  They might say they killed cancer, but they can't say they healed the body necessarily. The body does it itself and I think that's one of the things that's a big takeaway from all the people that get counseled by our coaches or by our staff. I think we hear that a lot, they've never been so healthy since they've had cancer.  It was a wake-up call.  So Right, I for you, did you make any personal changes in your life after learning this stuff?

Artie:  I have, right when I was going through that nutrition program, I have been vegetarian for a number of years.  Then I had cut dairy out of my diet and I felt tons better and slowly even more so reducing the animal...whatever, I mean even just examination of how close I come to toxins and soaps and household ingredients.  Just really getting into that...I already knew about the pesticides and food but like really becoming aware and how it's all linked together.

Carl:  Right, as soon as you get in you start.  Now you're cleaning out your closet.

Artie: It became even more of a pronounced enhancement...because it's almost like...they say cancer is transforming for the patient and then it also becomes the embodiment for the family, I feel. And so, mom even had a way and I feel the same way, that in a way, it is a blessing to have it because you live in a very mindfully different way when you have this disease that comes into your life.

Carl: Yeah, well mindful,  if you have studied some of the holistic ways of dealing with things but the unfortunate thing is for most cancer patients they go to the doctor and they're told get in for surgery, get in for chemo right away and they don't have time to think about anything. so, it's really good. I think as the coaches start to coach...especially the person who cooks in the house and everybody becomes healthy and the neighbors see that and there's this ripple effect. I think when that happens, that can cause people to become mindful.  Instead of just a patient or a number even they're treated like a tumor.

So, even if people are going through a medical protocol, it's great to get a coach like Artie, because she can be there with you and through the whole process it's a great shoulder to cry on, even. Because when people are telling you to do one thing, but your heart's telling you to do another thing, you need somebody on your side.  Everybody else is just scared and pushing you in a medical direction when really you need to heal your body as well.  Sorry, I didn't mean to steal your thunder.

Artie:  Oh no, I could totally [inaudible 14:36] what you just said.  The fact is that you do have some time to think.  Yes, the tumors are growing...when you're...I'm talking about active diagnosis. But you do have time to think but oftentimes, what ends up happening is anxiety for everybody kicks in and so having somebody on your side like a coach or someone that can help you to realize you do have choices, and choices embody transformation. We often...if we get pigeonholed in something then our power is taken away. But I just want to remind people, we do have lots of choices.  We just have to be presented with them on the plate.

Carl: Right, and you as a patient, you have some control.  You're not completely a victim, you're not completely out of control.  It didn't start overnight; it won't end overnight. I'm not a coach, I am the CEO of the organization so I just make sure the lights stay on here and make sure everybody else does their job well. So, I know enough to be dangerous, I guess. I leave all the professional stuff up to everybody else.

All right, let me look at another question we have here. What was your health journey? You didn't have a cancer diagnosis; you are like me.  My stepmother who I grew up with, she died of cancer, her father died of cancer, her mother's second husband died of cancer.  So, I've seen it a lot.  And everybody that's on the board, everybody has anything to do with us, our organization intimately, has either had cancer themselves or somebody very close to them had cancer.  And a lot of people find us the same way that they did.

They wanted the cancer to mean something, instead of something just bad, something positive, something that they can take and help other people and that was the whole reason that Susan started the organization. She didn't get this information in time to help her husband but she made sure that she would not let one more family, if she had anything to do with it, go through what she went through.  And I think I'm hearing the same story from you, is that correct?

Artie: Yes. Carl, I really appreciate you saying we're not...when I'm talking holistic, I do believe in allopathic, homeopathy, all of our medicines together. But I just really want again, back to the idea that chemo is not your only option. For instance, if my mom could have gotten back in time, she would have made the decision to do the Chinese the TCM, Chinese Medicine a little earlier. But she didn't want to do it both side by side, but one of my examples to you is, I said it earlier, how do we help people? How can I be part of the journey to make sure that they have well-informed care, and that's what all patients deserve?  Especially cancer patients who we don't just decide chemo is your only option.  No, let's look at all of your wide range and then go ahead.  If you want to do all the cards, by all means, let's do all the cards. Or if you want to do this, at least to help empower you to make sure that when you rest with your decision, you really get to rest with it.

Carl: Right, you're not left not knowing at least. And just the empowerment mentally knowing that you're able to participate in your healing. I think it is a big deal and that's one of the things that our coaches are great at. They're just there to help you and whenever you're stuck, just call and take some time to go over what's going on. I think it's really helpful mentally, for people. Yeah, so let me look again. I'm very unprofessional.

Artie:  Oh my God, please.  What I want to share is, it was interesting, we were talking about the journey behind where I got to the kids. I actually had formulated the business card for the non-profit and on the back, it had the services we were providing. It said cancer support. I then, like I said, when I was thinking in my brain, I really want some type of cancer coach, right? And I was like, is it out there?  The google search and the [inaudible19:20] search for google, I put in cancer coach and that's when beat cancer came up.

Carl: That's great.

Artie:  So, literally the only thing...I'm a researcher, so I researched the hell out of everything. For instance, the Health Coaching, I looked at in-depth. Where am I going to do my program? Who's the provider of the services? How much time have they spent?  But right away, the click happened because of the way that the mission statement and how...and her journey and everyone who is supporting this cause.

Carl:  Susan was an early adopter. She was pre-google. She was pre-internet, so she was doing this for 35 years before we filmed it.  Yeah, she...and people had a different mentality. They followed their doctor's instructions right to death, literally. The thing about Susan is, she is a dynamic researcher. I mean, the amount of studies, she can just quote offhand it's just amazing.  When she's talking about something, she doesn't just say it as an opinion, she backs it up with the studies it came from, and 35 years of experience in the street. Working with people and counseling people and teaching other counselors to counsel people. So yeah, it's like I said, it's because we got some people that are in our industry that aren't even as old as how long she's been doing it for.

Artie: That's amazing.

Carl: Yeah, but it's a delight for us to see it. This is her legacy is to have coaches out and there's no shortage of people to talk to. If they're willing to talk. Okay, so now I'm going to look up that question, let's see what we got here. Have you coached any clients at this point?

Artie: For the cancer module, I have organization does a lot of pro bono work or slack, we just take the donations right and we're in the building phase. But I have one person that I have talked to in India and I'm helping. We've had phone...two-hour sessions and she's actually not the patient, it's her husband.

Carl: Yeah, the caregiver.

Artie: The caregiver. And so, we have gotten an opportunity and I've given…she asked for a few tips here and there and we have our next call actually coming up. We give some time in between, we try to make a few of those modifications she had asked for and I just reminded her do the things also, like some of it was nutritionally based, so do it together.  So that, he doesn't feel like he…so now she understood the concept behind doing things as a couple. [inaudible22:38] just he is the pain.  He needs to do, and she appreciated that too, I think instead, let's do it together.

Carl: No, that's good. You can't have somebody who's your spouse or your family not participate, because that just makes it so much harder for you. Again, it makes you feel alone. But just for clarification, I want people to know that, or are watching this for the first time, that many of the people that I’m going to be interviewing or many of the people that have been interviewed in the past. They're very new, they have completed our course, they...for the most part, we're catching them for these interviews just to introduce them and may not have had a lot of clients at this point. Some people have, some people...because we're just starting this program of interviewing. I have had a great deal of experience but other people are just getting started but that doesn't mean they're any less qualified.  Now, when you're looking at the course, do you feel like this was a good starting point for this type of knowledge?  And is this something that has inspired you to go further with it?

Artie: Oh, for sure. When you help develop plans with that person who' just will continually...but all of the resources and the books that have been provided are very easy reads. Plus, like you said, the research corroborates it.  So, it's nice to know where to go, and then we have a great support network on our Facebook group collaboration team to be able to go to. I feel like there's a lot of hand-holding which is awesome.

Carl: That's something that makes us different.  We don't just let you go. Yeah, excellent. So okay, where can people find you?  Well, I don't know how long we've been on the phone, but we'll start closing it up.  Where can people find you?

Artie: Sure, right now you can go on my Facebook page via The Holistic Life Care.  Our website is under development like I said, we can contact me by email.

Carl: Okay, I'll make sure all the links are in the description.

Artie: And the email, email is great, and then we have our business phone line. And oh, I'm sorry, Instagram.  Instagram and Facebook page.

Carl: Yeah, I'll put everything in the description. I just wanted to give you a chance to say it and one bonus question, if you had one final tip or words of wisdom for anybody that might be listening or wanting to counsel, anything it's your show.

Artie: Trust your gut.

Carl: Good one, always knows. Yeah absolutely, is there anything else that you'd like to add?

Artie:  I always love that book Eat Pray Love, like really. It sums up everything, I feel like I’m in that movie.  I feel like we eat well, we...whatever your definition of prayer is and just love well.  I feel like you can really...we can really do a lot.

Carl: Terrific, yeah, I'm sorry, I didn't mean to cut you off.

Artie:  No, you didn't.

Carl: Oh, okay alright, is that it?

Artie:  That's it.

Carl: Okay, terrific.  It was wonderful getting to meet you.

Artie:  You too, thanks Carl for your time.

Carl: You're welcome and I'll get this all edited up and I'll let you know when it's ready.

Artie: Okay, alright, thank you.

Carl:  Okay, bye now.

Artie: Bye.

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Natalie Proenca conquered breast cancer for over 10 years. Her cancer diagnosis was in 2008 with conventional treatment. Then a few years later she had tumors in ovaries and uterus. Her oncologist confirmed that it was caused by hormonal therapy. She took this chance and used a natural approach and treated it by changing diet and exercises.

She has transformed herself using mind-body-spirit and decided to leave her Software Engineer career and was trained as a Cancer Coach with BeatCancer and TrulyHeal, and certified Holistic Integrative Health Coach with IIN. She is also a certified Plant-based Nutrition Graduate at eCornell (with T. Colin Campbell). She's helped many cancer patients recover from the treatments and even help them healed from different types of cancer such as breast cancer, cervical cancer, ovarian cancer, lung cancer, kidney cancer, colon cancer, thyroid cancer, and brain cancer. She offers online programs; Colon & Kidney Detox and Beat Cancer Naturally. She has a strong passion to guide you to find the best protocol for you to fight cancer and get well. Connect with her on or email at or 508-282-6698.

Natalie:  For someone who just found out that they've been diagnosed with cancer. What should they do? I think the very first thing you need to understand is that you have had cancer for years. You did not have cancer two days ago or two months ago, it has been for a long time. It could take seven to ten or twenty years. If you have lung cancer, it could be thirty years. So do not rush. I want you to step back and then just take a quiet moment and ask yourself, how did you get cancer and what you should do next. Most people, when they learn that they have cancer, get frustrated. They have fears. When you make decisions with fears, you make the wrong decision. I want you to learn, I want you to search, ask people who have been there, who have experience guide you, what you should do. So you have the right path. You don't want to try left and right and back and forth. You're going to lose time. Even though I said, you have been having cancer for a long time, but sometimes when you choose the wrong road, you're losing time and the cancer, it's true that it's growing all the time, but it's not as fast as when you know it. Think about two years, five years ago, you did not know that you have cancer. You never care about cancer. You never really think about it, but now you know that you have cancer, you start having fears, you start worry and that causes cancer to grow very fast.

So the first thing you should do is to just step back and ask yourself, what is the right protocol for you? You want to do conventional, or you want to do naturally or you want to do integrative? I want you to sit down and then take a piece of paper and write down pros and cons of each approach and think about what will fit your lifestyle the most, and what's best for yourself because each approach is not the best for everyone. You have to come up with your own protocol and that's the very first step that I want to suggest to anyone that has just been diagnosed with cancer.

Intro: Hello and welcome to the Beat Cancer Answer brought to you by The center for advancement in cancer education.

Carl: This is Carl Wagner. I'm here with Beat Cancer. We're here with another one of our great coaches, Natalie Parenza and I'm going to just shut up and let her speak. So Natalie, please tell us a little bit about yourself, your journey and how you came to beat cancer?

Natalie: My name is Natalie. My journey about cancer; I have been diagnosed since 2008, when my youngest son was just 10 months old. I had breast cancer and my son was just learning how to walk. At that time  I had no knowledge. I had no information about alternative medicine or alternative approaches so I don't know what to do. I just took the conventional treatment, just like a lot of people did. So I had surgery, I had chemotherapy, radiation. Then one day I saw one of my friends, she had cancer returned. She had breast cancer before and then she had cancer returned. The second time she had brain cancer and she didn't make it and I have seen a lot of people and I started to realize that conventional treatment is not the answer. I had that experience myself. I was on Tamoxifen, I was on hormone therapy for two years, then it started showing tumor in my ovaries and uterus. So the doctor kept watching the tumor growing, by that time I already told myself that I don't want to be like others, I don't want cancer to return. What should I do? I start taking control of my health and I start searching for the answer, how can I be cancer free?

So I study a lot. I started reading books, any books about cancer, I just read it and I started changing my lifestyle, changing my diet. So I told my doctor that I don't want any surgery anymore. I don't want any drugs, nothing. So I started changing, implementing a new diet. I make green smoothie every day and then start cutting meat one by one until finally I was able to switch everything. So I was on a plant based at some point. So I'm not completely vegan or vegetarian, I'm just trying to find what is best for me. So six months after that, the doctor said, what did you do? Your tumor is gone, but the doctor's still giving me Tamoxifen, I still kept taking it because she said, I'm still young. I was diagnosed when I was 36 and she said, okay, because you have an aggressive type, your cancer can come back in five years so you should be on hormone therapy. So I told my doctor that I don't want anything removed, no more surgery. So the first time the tumor was gone, she just said it was a surprise. Maybe it was something of a fault test or something. So I kept taking Tamoxifen more and more and the tumor started growing again.

The second time I was able to shrink the tumor, it happened three times until my oncologist said, okay, yes, your hormone therapy is actually causing your tumor to grow. So it took three times for my oncologist to convince me that it was the hormone of therapy that caused that. I knew that, so that time I already have knowledge, I already know what to do with my body so I was not afraid of cancer anymore. So that's my turning point, that's why I want to take control of myself and I start changing. It seems like I have my new life since then. So I have been doing this for more than 10 years now. I've been cancer free for 10 years.

Carl: Congratulations.

Natalie: Thank you so much, that's how I started to really pay attention and really interested and I want to become a cancer coach and help other people.

Carl: Yeah. Make your cancer mean something.

Natalie: It does.

Carl: Yes. So I hear many similar stories. In fact I might've shared this before with some other coaches, but my mother had breast cancer and she did radiation and I'm not sure if she did chemo, I was pretty young at the time. So she was a statistic of somebody who lived through breast cancer because she lasted more than five years. So they say you're a survivor, but she did die of cancer and it was cancer and that was in her intestinal area. It was actually on top of it. It was strange. So just like you said, the cancer came back and just like you said, a lot of people that the cancer comes back, they must change their lifestyle.

Natalie: So that was the thing that I started questioning because when I took the conventional treatment, I did not have any knowledge. My doctor did not tell me, she just said, oh, you can eat everything, but just reduce red meat to just a couple of meals per week and I hear a lot of information from my friends, from the media and it just gets confusing. At some point at the beginning, I actually refused everything because I don't trust anyone. Then I realized why a lot of people have cancer return. So conventional treatment is not the answer. Then I start searching for the truth. Then I realized that, oh my God, I have to do something because I don't want to be like others that have cancer return again. So that's what I start searching and learning and learning and here I am, I believe that my knowledge can help others and if I can save someone's life or someone can use my information, my knowledge that I have been studying for more than 10 years, I want to help other, I want to be the person who opening that door and show them and tell them here. There are so many roads, so many paths that you can choose how to get well without using a conventional treatment or if you want to integrate it both, you have to do something. You have to protect yourself, not to really get cancer again; I have seen some people, some of my clients, that they did not prepare themselves and then when they receive chemotherapy or radiation and they just get sick and sicker, and then they cannot tolerate the medicine, they cannot tolerate the drugs and they didn't make it and that is so sad.  That is why this information is not there for people to know this.

Carl: Yeah. It seems that well here in America, when somebody has any type of heart issue, anything, they usually leave the doctor's office with a laundry list of things to do, eat less salt, get more exercise, lose some weight, less red meat. But when we go to the oncology office with cancer, they don't tell you anything it seems, at least in regards to how you can participate in your own healing the way that they deal with heart issues say you get to be a participant, you get to be part of the healing process. So yeah, and what you said about integrative approach. So we don't ever say to anybody don't follow your doctor's advice that would just put us out of business in a heartbeat and set us up for liability. But we absolutely do say look with what our advice is let's change the terrain of your body. Let's get you in the best position for your body to help itself heal because the medicines and the radiation do not heal the cancer, it kills the cancer.

Natalie: And it's temporary. Those treatments kill the cancer but just for a very short time.

Carl: Right. Right. And you've got to change your lifestyle like you said, like you did, an excellent example, right. You're a role model and that's a great thing. You show how you can come back and have a vibrant life. Yeah, love it. So how did you find beat cancer?

Natalie: So I have been studying, searching, I'm always learning and I actually want more and more information. Then I took health coach training from IIN Institute for Integrative Nutrition.  When I'm done with that it gives me an overview of how to become a health coach, but then I want a specific cancer coach. Then I Google it and I have been looking for many, many places and this is it. When I watched the video, when I watched Susan talking and I was like, I have to enroll into this program and that's how I found beat

Carl: Oh, that's great. That's great. So what was it about the course that you feel that you gained knowledge wise that helped you over the other things that you have already learned?

Natalie: My favorite part, I have three favorites. One is the mind, body, spirit part; I never heard it from anywhere about characteristics of cancer patients, especially Susan summarized more than 30,000 patients that she interviewed and she summarized each type of cancer, breast cancer, uterus cancer, kidney and lung cancer. It’s just amazing that when I look at myself, I ask myself, yes, is this true and moreover, I try to use that information because I already started having clients before. So I start asking questions when they come to me, I ask, okay, what type of cancer do you have? And I started applying the knowledge from what I learned from Beat Cancer and every single one said it correctly, how did I know that? It seems like I'm a fortune teller, but I said based on the studies as Susan did that and I was like it is amazing for me about my body's connection about each type of cancer. So that's my first impression is my favorite information that I learned from beat cancer.

The second one is the document. Oh my God, it was just like massive, all what I want to know including diet, what to eat, what not to eat and there the chart about the mind, the spirit, the spiritual, what to do, the A-Z kinds of food, the superfood, everything, all the documentation that this organization gathered. It's so valuable, it's much more than the tuition fee that I paid. Honestly, you get a lot more. The bonus is a plus, everything that I want to learn about cancer that is always document there. So the third part that I like a lot is the example of the interview, the case study and showing real examples, how to interview and how to ask questions, how to ask the right question to clients and observation about the patient, when they respond and what we should ask and that I think is very good. I didn't learn from anywhere else. So that's my, the best favorite parts that I learned that's a lot more than that though. It's a lot, but if I pick the top three, that would be it.

Carl: Yeah. The bonus area was something I did after Susan retired. I felt like everything that we had in digital format, all the books, all the videos, all the audio recordings, I wanted our coaches to have all of that and I just threw it all in. Everything that she's ever done for 35 years I wanted you guys to have it. So I'm glad you mentioned that, that makes me feel good that you took advantage of that and enjoyed that.

Natalie: Oh, I go through everything. I cannot remember everything though. I think I have to go through that again and again, there's so much information and I'm just so excited. I was one of those people that was really crazy about learning. I never stopped learning, and this is always something for me to learn.

Carl: Yeah. It's just the beginning that our course is just the beginning. It's to set you on the right course for your journey and I don't know; where are you working at right now?

Natalie: Where am I working right now?

Carl: No, no, your country.

Natalie: Oh, I’m originally from Thailand and most of my clients, they are Thai, but they're living in the US; most of my clients they are in Thailand and I have people from all over the world. Some people, some Thai people live in Germany, New Zealand, Switzerland and some in France,.It's very exciting to be a coach and I'm able to help people around the world.

Carl: Yeah. I love it. I love it. It just seems like we get one person and all of a sudden all over the world, they're teaching people and I love it that you're teaching the Taiwanese and bringing it to the Taiwanese culture and you're just a shining example.

Natalie: Yes. Especially when I've been living in the US more than 20 years. When I talk to Thai people about cancer, they don't have information like how I have here. So I see that's why no one tell them about this. There may be cancer coaches in Thailand that I haven't met, but I see that there are some information that is very valuable, that they should know about this and I started with clients in Thailand first because I wanted to help them and I also have clients here in the US as well. I just see that Thai people need someone to really share this information, because it's a lot of information. I see that they're still; I was thinking about myself 10 years ago when I was diagnosed with cancer. Nobody tells me anything about alternatives, so I think Thailand, it just like back then there's still like, everything is about chemotherapy. You must take chemotherapy only, radiation only and you should not take any supplements because it's going to interfere with chemotherapy. So when I heard that from Thai people, I was like no, no, no, no, that's not true. All this information, I don't want to put the word that they are behind here. It's just nobody delivered this message to them. So that's why I want to tell them and I also have lots of people and friends back in Thailand that have cancer. So I start with that.

Carl: So with the cookbooks and the A-Z guide do you feel that there's enough variety in there to cook Thai style with those foods?

Natalie: Oh, that's a very good point because when I start talking about changing diet, eating plant based, people wondering what is the plant based diet. We know that we need to eat plants, but exactly how? And then when I start talking about eating salad, people would just really put that off because, oh, no, that's only food for Western. It's just the name of the dish. I said, don't think about it as a Western dish, you should eat as close as natural as possible. So it's true that the salad dish, the diet that we learn here in the US, it doesn't fit the culture in Thailand because people eat a lot of cooked food, curry. They use a lot of curry. They eat fresh, raw vegetables, but in a different way, a very different way. So when I started to eat salad, everybody thought about salad dressing in a way that you have to use eggs and oil.

Carl: Yeah. Well, maybe you'll have to come up with some great Thai recipes.

Natalie: Then I started learning more and more, also using the Thai culture, the food in Thailand, what is safe for cancer patients? So I started an online course.

Carl: Oh, great.

Natalie: Yes. So I started the online course, I started with colon and liver detoxification and introducing green juice and changing diet and doing coffee enema, helping people to get rid of the toxins. Then I launched another online course beating cancer naturally. Then I start introducing using the Gerson therapy protocol and mixed with some of the vegetables that people can use and can find in Thailand and so I use Gerson therapy as my core that's because I learned Gerson therapy before I found beat cancer.

Carl: Right. Right. And while we're not just one therapy, it seems like, I think we kind of give you a broad array of tools to use instead of just one singular approach. But you are right, we are mostly plant based and so is Gerson.

Natalie: Right, right.

Carl: Yeah. Well, that's great. You made the courses, you already beat me to it. I just didn't know about it. That's excellent. So okay, I'm going to give you the bonus question and, of course, I want you to tell people where they can find you, because if they're just listening to this on a podcast I want them to know where to find you. But the bonus question is if you could just give one tip to somebody getting started what would that be? The getting started in their cancer journey?

Natalie: For someone who just found out that they've been diagnosed with cancer, I think the very first thing you need to understand is that you have cancer for years, you did not have cancer two days ago or two months ago, it has been for a long time. It could take seven to ten or twenty years. If you have lung cancer, it could be 30 years. So do not rush. I want you to step back and then just take a quiet moment and ask yourself, how did you get cancer and what you should do next. Most people, when they learn that they have cancer, they get frustrated, they have fears. When you make a decision with fears, you make the wrong decision. I want you to learn, I want you to search, ask people who have been there, who have experience, guide you what you should do so you have the right path. You don't want to try left and right and back and forth, you're going to lose time. Even though I said you have been having cancer for a long time, sometimes when they choose the wrong road, you're losing time and the cancer, it's true that it's growing all the time, but it's not as fast as when you know it. Think about two years, five years ago, you did not know that you have cancer. You never care about cancer. You never really think about it but now you know that you have cancer you start having fears, you start worry and that causes cancer to grow very fast.

So the first thing you should do is to just step back and ask yourself, what is the right protocol for you? You want to do conventional or you want to do naturally all you want to do an integrative? I want you to sit down and then take a piece of paper and write down pros and cons of each approach and think about what will fit your lifestyle the most, and what's best for yourself because each approach is not the best for everyone. You have to come up with your own protocol and that's the very first step that I want to suggest to anyone that just diagnosed with cancer.

Carl: That's great. Just take a step back, that is a problem, people get rushed right in, hurry up and take this protocol and they don't have any time to think and the family too, the family is scared, they just want you to do what the doctor says. I think it's really good advice to slow it down. Make sure you do what's right for you. Very good, excellent advice.

Natalie: And finding the right doctor, good doctor, that's also very important. My doctor never rushed me actually, when I searched for a doctor, when I found out that I had cancer, it was very bad timing. I was about to travel to Thailand. I have a couple of days to fly and it was during the Christmas and New Year season. I'm about to fly to Thailand and my doctor called me, said the result, the tests came back and it was cancer. So I was in denial mode, I did not believe that so I thought it was a joke. So a lot of people may have that feeling. I thought it was a flu. Okay. I have a flu and a few days it will go away, until the next day I start to realize, this is no kidding. This is real. So I asked my doctor and she said, well, you are going to be on vacation, just go, a couple of weeks will not make a difference. So my doctor let me travel and enjoy my life. Enjoy my vacation, she said, when you come back then you can start thinking about a treatment. I have heard someone that have doctors told them, no, you need surgery. You need chemotherapy right away.

Carl: I've heard that too.

Natalie: And that made you even more nervous. Oh my God, I cannot wait a couple of days is going to be that bad. My life is going to end and that's when people get so frustrated. The more you rush, the more fears you have, and then you made the wrong decision.

Carl: Yeah. Yeah. And sometimes it plants a seed in your head as well. Some people just die exactly on time when their doctors say they would. They're great doctors, but they're not psychic. Why is it three months on the day or a six months on the day or one year on the day? It's an amazing thing, a power that a healer has in their hands, just by what they tell you. Your doctor told you, good, go enjoy yourself. Don't worry about it for now. Yeah. It's a bad thing to hear right before you go on vacation, but then I'll take this time to just relax and then come back and we'll talk. Yeah, that was very good. So do you have anything else that you'd like to relate to our listeners and our watchers before we close it up?

Natalie: I have some good stories to share, some of my clients.

Carl: Yeah, that would be wonderful.

Natalie: Can I share? I have been coaching many people around the world by now. I have some story that is really catchy for me. One lady, she just watched my YouTube video. She had lung cancer stage three, but her doctor told her that she would not survive more than three months. So she didn't start with stage three lung cancer. She started with stage one, as I said, when you know you have cancer, you have fears and that's how the tumor started growing really quickly. In only a few months, her tumor, her cancer grew to be stage three in a few months, it's growing really big and she went to see another doctor. So it was already stage three and the doctor said, you must do chemotherapy. If not, you will have only three months to live. Somehow, something happened, someone shared my video and she just watched that video and she said, this is it. She's going to try. She didn't want to have chemotherapy. So she went back home and started growing her own vegetables. She heard that coach Natalie said that you’ve got to eat organic vegetables and stop eating meat for her type of cancer, she did that. Three months later, she started having a checkup. Six months later, she had the test again and the doctor was surprised her tumor is gone. She did not tell me until two years after that, two more years, her sister actually sent me a message to thank me that your video saved my sister's life two years ago, my sister watched your video and she did not speak Thai properly because she's not Thai.

She understands Thai and I was like my knowledge, my information, and my video that I posted on YouTube can save someone's life and it just like, keep me going and I want to do more of this. So I actually saved someone's life by someone just watching my video on YouTube, on how to change the diet and what to do and that's one of the stories that I want to know. It's one of the style that I really want to share that in someone that no longer has hope, when the doctor said you have only three months, six months to live. Hope is powerful and I want to be the person who delivered that hope and it's not as false hope because if one person can come back from stage four from bedridden, and then they become alive again, they can heal from cancer by themselves. If one person can do it there are more people who can do it and I think you can do it too. So that's what I want to deliver this message that doesn't lose hope. There's always hope if you're still alive.

Carl: Yeah. We've seen that many times. We never say that we heal people from cancer because we don't, we just give them the tools that they need to allow their bodies to do the work that they're supposed to do.

Natalie: And I have another story. This lady, she was in my group coaching. I have a six month group coaching program that I meet them every two weeks. So this lady she's 70 years old. The first cancer diagnosis was a couple years, about four years back, she had kidney cancer. She has surgery. She had the tumor removed, but she refused chemotherapy and no radiation, but she did not change her lifestyle. She did not change the diet. So four years later, which is this year 2020, at the beginning of the year, her cancer came back second time and the tumor, it was really, really close to where she had surgery before. So this is proof that you cannot cut out cancer. You have to really treat the real cause, you have to get rid of the cancer stem cell. So when she had cancer, the second time she chose not to do surgery and again, no radiation, no chemotherapy and she found me. So she joined a group coaching program and I gave her information. I give her the tool and I give them advice on what to do. Six months after the program ended, she had herself scanned and her doctor said, your tumor is gone. You no longer have cancer. It was really, really amazing. She's 70 years old, but she's willing to learn. She's willing to change her lifestyle, which is not very easy for someone who is 70.

Carl: She really wanted it. She really wanted it. Yeah.

Natalie: So this story, it just shows me that someone 70 year old can do it so you can do it too. It just you have the right tool, you have the right information and you have to believe, you have to believe in yourself and you have to trust yourself. That's what I want to say.

Carl: Yeah. It's so hard when you're getting conflicting advice from people that are supposed to be smarter than you because they have letters after their name but like you said, you have to trust your gut. You have to trust your instinct. You have to take time to reflect and use the tools that are presented to you and I love that. I think your whole video should be called you can do it too and I think that's great. It's the truth. Yeah. Other people did it and you can do it too. Yeah. You got another one?

Natalie: I do have a lot actually, but this is my top two. You want to hear more? What type of cancer you want to hear? I actually help someone healed from cancer, many types of cancer. I started with breast cancer. I have someone really healed from breast cancer without surgery, without chemo and radiation. Then my second one uterus cancer, kidney cancer, thyroid cancer, lung cancer, colon cancer, brain cancer.

Carl: Yeah. Amazing stuff. Amazing. Yeah.

Natalie: So what type of cancer do you want to hear the story?

Carl: So well, it's getting a bit long. So what we'll do is do you have videos in English or is it all in Thai?

Natalie: It's all in Thai. I haven't done it in English yet.

Carl: Okay.

Natalie: I will start that really soon.

Carl: Yeah. Yeah. And we'll connect all your videos into our we have a playlist in YouTube, so we can list your videos in our playlist we'll list. We'll list what you have in Thai, but it'll be great for you to do an English two.

Natalie: I will.

Carl: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Natalie: I will be posting the video in English soon.

Carl: Okay. So tell us podcast listeners how we can find you and your website and everything.

Natalie: If you're here in the US you can send me a text message on my cell phone, (508) 282-6698 or you want to send me email We can provide you information right below this message, right?

Carl: Yeah. Yeah. I'll put it up. I'll put everything in the show notes

Natalie:, or you can find me on Facebook. I'm always on Facebook and Instagram, my Facebook, I have personal webpage, Natalie Proenca or you want to find me, you can search “stop cancer with Natalie” in English, or in Thai: “หยุดมะเร็งกับโค้ชนาตาลี”. Then I have this Facebook page and you can find a lot of videos about how to beat cancer naturally or integratively. If  you decide to take chemotherapy, you need to take supplements and what supplements are right for you and how the diet will help you to get through chemotherapy and get well sooner. I have a lot of information on my Facebook page and on Instagram it's Coach Natalie and YouTube channel health coach Natalie. Or you can go to my website,

Carl: Terrific. Wow. You're everywhere. Terrific. Well, thank you so much for taking some time with us today and sharing your stories. You're an inspiration and you're already an established coach, even before us. So I think that's wonderful and I love your stories of healing and your insights. Thank you so much.

Natalie: Thank you so much. Thanks for watching.

Outro: If we helped you learn just one thing today, about how to prevent cope with or beat cancer, then we have succeeded in our mission. Please remember to like, subscribe and comment. We appreciate all of your feedback and love your suggestions, your positive ratings, help us to get discovered so we can help save more lives. Thank you again for joining us and best wishes for good health from all of us

Jennifer Gale is a Traditional/Classical Naturopath certified through the American Naturopathic Medical Certification Board (ANMCB) as well as a Functional Diagnostic Nutrition Practitioner. She also has certification as a Bio-Energetics practitioner working through the NES program. She gives workshops and lectures throughout the southeast Michigan area on all aspects of Natural Health - with primary focus on Nutrition, Herbs, Reflexology, Essential Oils, Organic Gardening, and Functional Blood Chemistry Analysis. Her most recent work is combining Thermal imaging into client care as a Thermo buzzer consultant.

Her interest in cancer stems from the pain and feelings of helplessness she felt seeing many family, friends, colleagues, and others receive a cancer diagnosis and wanting to DO something. As she went through her Naturopathy work, she learned how to approach each person from a unique perspective. Today, Jennifer uses all of her knowledge, resources and connections to be a Beacon of natural education.

Jennifer states, “I loved finding Beat Cancer as an organization because it immediately provided a community of people, resources, and credibility that took the same approach that I do with the mind/body/spirit connection, without forcing someone to do what we think is best, but instead supporting the person and their choices.”

While I was doing the course work I came up with the idea of BEACON - A Half Day Retreat for Cancer Survivors, Thrivers, and their supporters.

Listen to this podcast to learn about the modalities Jennifer uses in her practice that she is passionate about!

2:13 Jennifer’s health journey with asthma

4:03 How juicing helped Jennifer’s asthma and how food sensitivities can be a trigger.

5:00 Jennifer speaks about emotional root causes of her health issues.

7:15 Jennifer becomes a Naturopathic Dr.

9:55 “What I’m definitely most excited about is helping people get to the point of understanding a true mind, body, spirit connection through energy work, and my work as an NES (Nutra Energetic Systems) practitioner is probably one of the most exciting ways of doing that”.

10:34 Jennifer talks about how we are energy and how balancing the body field can affect the physical body.

11:06 Explanation of a scan and what it can do.

14:16 Jennifer talks about how emotions get stuck in different parts of our body and disrupt our energy field.

17:02 There’s usually emotions underlying a cancer diagnosis.

18:04 Structured water and cancer.

24:14 Reflexology as an assessment tool and for cancer. NIH gave millions of dollars to study reflexology for cancer, and the benefits for patient and their caregiver.

29:38 Infrared mat with Crystals and how it promotes circulation and helps energy flow freely by freeing up emotional or toxic blockages.

31:04 How points on the feet connect to the body.

36:16 Fasting for cancer. ProLon makes products that mimic fasting.

38:29 Jennifer finds Beat Cancer, Certified Holistic Cancer Coaching Course, Susan Silberstein, and Healing Strong.

45:29 is a lifestyle brand that encourages everyone to take ancient ways of living and understanding, but makes it relevant to today. Jennifer has a year-long concierge service. She is very excited about her Beacon event 6/20.

It is a beacon of light and hope for anyone touched by cancer to see what the natural health world has to offer. or 586-461-1416.

Direct download: BC-075_Intro_To_A_Coach_Jennifer_Gale.mp3
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Kelly Collins is a holistic cancer coach with Beat Cancer, and she is the founder of My Vibe Life. She has a BA in Economics and Political Science from The University of Arizona, and an MBA in Business Administration from Pepperdine University. Through her 25 years in corporate America, Kelly found herself an exhausted road warrior with numerous health challenges. After growing frustrated with the medical community telling her she was fine when she knew she wasn’t, she decided to try naturopathic medicine and acupuncture. Through these things, and after eliminating all inflammatory items from her diet, Kelly not only got her health back, she was vibrant once again. She furthered her education through the Institute of Integrative Nutrition and helped her father on his journey with Non-Hodgkin’s CNS lymphoma.

Today she is empowering cancer patients, survivors, and caregivers to take control of their healing path by educating them about wellness and recovery through lifestyle change that is centered on specific nutrition, supplementation, and certain alternative therapies and modalities. Kelly also believes on focusing on people as a whole – body, mind, and spirit.

Listen to this podcast to learn about how you can live a vibrant life with a cancer diagnosis.

2:51 Kelly tells her story and how she went to a Naturopathic doctor and found out she had low vitamin D, low vitamin B 12, mercury toxicity, hypothyroidism, severe adrenal fatigue, and GI distress.

4:37 Kelly talks about removing wheat, soy, dairy, sugar, alcohol and coffee from her diet to decrease inflammation and increase brain function.

5:32 A few months prior to her dad being diagnosed with non-Hodgkin’s CNS lymphoma, Kelly enrolled in the Institute of Integrative Nutrition.

6:01 Kelly learned about alkalinity and how important it was to cancer patients who are acidic.

7:30 Her father got relief for neuropathy from acupuncture.

8:13 Kelly talks about her father’s heart issues stemming from chemotherapy and the return of his brain cancer.

10:02 Kelly talks about the importance of taking care of yourself when you are a caregiver.

10:56 Kelly is enthusiastic about the Bemer and how it improves oxygenation.

12:48 Kelly got certified as a holistic cancer coach and launched her website, My Vibe Life in honor of her dad in November 2019.

13:52 She agrees with Susan Silberstein that we don’t need more research, we need more education.

14:58 Kelly talks about the importance of people with cancer having a choice and trusting their intuition.

16:51 Kelly states, “It’s never one thing that gets us sick so it’s not one thing that gets us well”.

Kelly Collins
Delray Beach, Fl

Complementary gift- Kelly is offering a complementary 60 minute consultation and two complementary Bemer sessions for locals to Delray Beach Florida.

Direct download: bc_074_collins.mp3
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Cancer coach, Healing Strong group leader, martial arts teacher and cancer thriver Jim Webb was diagnosed with intermediate stage prostate cancer in May of 2018. He was already on a path of research and education when he was diagnosed, and knew that he didn’t want to go the conventional route of treatment. Since diagnosis his passion has been leaning about and teaching holistic methods and lifestyle changes to boost the body’s ability to heal. He has been in martial arts for 17 years, is a level 3 reiki practitioner and particularly enjoys helping men on their healing journey with cancer. He works with his wife Kelly. She is a holistic health coach, reiki master, medical Qigong practitioner, and together they own Full Circle Martial and Healing Arts.

Listen to this podcast to learn about the life saving changes Jim has made on his cancer journey, and how important it is to embrace love, forgiveness, openness, spirituality, and energy healing practices such as Qigong, reiki, and meditation.

3:05 Learn about the benefits of sharing that Jim experienced as he explains how he immediately started a Facebook group called Thrive Don’t Just Survive after he was diagnosed.

4:58 Jim explains the changes he made in the areas of exercise, diet, supplements, reiki, and energy medicine. He learned by listening to The Truth About Cancer that 50% of all healing is emotional and spiritual.

6:50 Susan’s course (Beat Cancer’s Certified Holistic Cancer Coaching Course) talks about the traits that are associated with certain cancers, and the traumas we have experienced that affect our bodies on a cellular level that need to be released.

8:00 Learn what Healing Strong is about and how important support, love, and a having a higher power are to the healing process. Jim also talks about spirituality and energy medicine and how men especially need to open up and do the emotional work for healing to take place.

15:15 Forgiveness for ourselves and others is explored, and how it frees up energy for repair when we have a cancer diagnosis.

18:00 Learn about Jim’s morning routine of meditation, self-reiki, and self-love. Kelly Webb also talks about medical Qigong and how it can support the body to help with cancer. She tells us about her Facebook group people can join called Eastern Wisdom Meets Modern Lifestyle. We also talk about essential oils to use to help the senses so the body can reach the parasympathetic state of repair.

30:36 Learn how you can make an investment in your health by understanding that the skin is largest organ in the body and how important it is to use high quality products on your body as well as high quality food, water, and supplements.

32:00 Learn about the value of organic food, farmers markets, and the Environmental Working Group’s work on rating clean and dirty foods. Learn about the safety issues of EMFs and 5G. Juice Plus and the Tower Garden to grow your own food, sprouts and herbs is discussed.

38:00 Learn ways to get out of your head when you have cancer and into the flow of joy.

42:30 and benefits and the importance of prevention are discussed.

49:43 Jim and Kelly talk about their Martial arts school, Full Circle Martial and Healing Arts, where they have local classes. They are certified in adaptive martial arts and para Taekwondo. Many of their clients are 50+ years old and/or have health or body related issues.

Jim Webb (and Kelly Webb)
530-417-4415 or 4416
Cameron Park, Ca

Cancer thriver, Eli Hans was diagnosed in 2014 with a rare and aggressive form of Non-Hodgkin lymphoma. With only a 10% survival rate, Eli reconnected deeply with this intuition and discovered life-saving, holistic and integrative strategies that helped him not only to survive, but to thrive.

Today he is a certified holistic cancer coach with Beat Cancer, life coach and a multi-passionate entrepreneur, motivational speaker and workshop leader. Learn more about Eli

Listen to this podcast to learn how healing is absolutely possible and how it must occur at the core level to address physical, emotional, spiritual, nutritional and other life imbalances. Eli will also explain how cancer is a multi-factorial result of factors that we can counteract to get back on the road to wellness.

1:50 Learn about how Eli did his research and came to a place of peace with his treatment decision, reframing chemotherapy            as love juice.

4:53 Eli speaks about his experience with his holistic oncologist and the balance he struck with his conventional oncologist.

5:56 Eli talks about how cancer is a multifactorial result of imbalance and what changes he needed to make on his healing journey.

7:15 When Eli hit his 5 year mark after diagnoses he decided he really wanted to help others on their cancer journey.

8:45 The cancer journey can feel endless, but it’s temporary. A cancer coach can help so much in navigating the process for the person diagnosed with cancer, and also their caregivers.

15:11 The cancer retreat in San Miguel that Eli and Joseph offer teaches the anti-cancer lifestyle and the mindset of being a cancer thriver. Eli talks about the different modalities and services offered.

19:26 Fear vs Peace is discussed as it relates to cancer, and the importance of connecting to your intuition when making decisions.

22:32 We can heal our life and attain harmony. Eli had the belief that somehow he would thrive after this experience, and that             the pain was temporary. His legacy is to help others.

Annette Tello has 25 years of experience in rehabilitation counseling and specializes in life transitions coaching. In the last five years, she has concentrated her efforts on working with women with cancer. She has developed her Creative Rx Coaching program and written an award winning book called Creative Prescriptions for Women with Cancer-Tools for Tapping into Your Stress-free, Creative, Happy Healing Space.

Art making was an instrumental tool in her own healing from cervical carcinoma in her 30s, and was also key in dealing with stress and anxiety as a child in an abusive household. 

Annette wrote Creative Prescriptions for women to explore the process of creating in a way where they could tap into the healing benefits of self-reflection and self-discovery. Creativity is a prescription to reduce stress, raise spirits, and gain a sense of control over one’s own health.

Listen to this podcast to learn about the benefits of creative expression for the healing process and how it can help to release emotions so a new authentic self can emerge. Learn about Annette’s experience with creativity and how her book and her programs can help anyone on their cancer journey. 

3:11 For the first time I experienced being mindful and completely centered and grounded. I experienced blissful moments in the creative zone. The finished products gave me things like recognition and positive praise. Art making saved my life.
5:20 In Dr Bernie Siegel’s book, Love, Medicine and Miracles he tells his patients to find something that puts them in the creative zone, because that’s the most healing state the body can be in. That can be gardening, music etc.
6:58 Creating art for product is very different than creating art for process. I wanted art to be a tool for me, not to make a living. So I got a degree in Psychology with a major in art. And then I got a Masters Degree in Rehabilitation Counseling.
8:23 My whole life had been working with people recovering from accident or illness who need to reinvent themselves.
8:39 In the last six years, I got a job with Jewish family services working with women with breast cancer. During this time I got the idea for my book. I saw women were lost and didn’t have the tools they needed for their life.
10:19 There are 6 prescriptions in the book with activities.
13:34 When you have cancer you have to heal body, mind and spirit because you are an intuitive, creative, spiritual, intellectual and emotional being and all those parts of you need to be part of the healing process.
16:57 The book is user friendly. The supplies are not a lot of money, and you don’t need to be artistic. It’s about the process of creating for healing benefits. You are in the flow, relaxing, and having fun like when we were children.
19:23 You can do the activities and get what you need in the moment, but you can go deeper and journal. This books helps people to be able to move on with their lives after treatment because they’ve dealt with their emotions.
25:55 I have found that the women that I work with and have cancer that have a strong faith, not necessarily religion, do better with treatment. A spiritual practice is a powerful tool to lean on. You can start with positive affirmations.


Annette Tello M.S.
San Diego, Ca
Author: Creative Prescriptions for Women With Cancer-Amazon
Upcoming: Online creative live program 2/2020 with coaching



Do you know someone that was recently diagnosed with cancer and you don’t know what to say? In this podcast, Jeanette Carbajal talks with Debra Nicholson, the Director of Community Outreach for to help you determine what not to say to cancer patients. The last thing you want to do is create guilt and shame to a patient and unwittingly impede their healing process. Jeanette teaches us how to come from a place of love and pure honesty at all times with any questions or suggestions we may give to a cancer patient. She covers topics like things you can say when you first find out, what not to say, suggesting treatment options, and what sympathetic vs. parasympathetic nervous system responses are. She suggests three questions you can ask to determine the values of your loved ones. If you are struggling to know what to say to a person in your life that was recently diagnosed, then this podcast is for you! 

1:00 What you can say to any cancer patient

3:00 What is future tripping and how to avoid it

4:00 What to say instead of “Let me know if you need anything”

5:30 Knowing the “Rules of the House”

6:35 The 2nd most disempowering questions you can ask.
8:15 Helping the caregiver

9:00 How to choose treatments that align with values

10:00 Avoiding the comparison game

12:00 Loving unconditionally

14:00 Avoiding Facebook Ads & “The Gifting Suite”

16:00 Allowing grief to happen

18:00 Three things not to say to a cancer patient
20:00 Don’t be a mind reader

21:30 Sympathetic vs. Parasympathetic nervous system responses and what they are

22:00 Learning to accept the diagnosis and denying the prognosis

24:00 How to avoid family controversy

24:30 Alternative vs. conventional cancer treatment options
26:00 3 things to understand about a cancer patient

28:00 Knowing your self worth as a cancer patient

29:00 Overcoming isolation

30:00 What you gain from group sessions

31:00 Why it’s important to find a professional to share your story and feelings with

32:00 Inviting a cancer patient to physical and outdoor activities

33:00 What to share on Facebook & creating your own group

35:00 Gifting plants & flowers


About Jeanette
Jeanette Carbajal CHHC, CCC, is a speaker and life mentor to cancer patients and their caregivers. She helps high achieving professional women and caregivers that are recently
diagnosed. By providing individual coaching, personal caregiver support, Executive cancer coaching, and corporate cancer counseling, she helps patients and their caregivers reclaim their options, and create a healing roadmap for their families, career, and new lifestyle. Jeanette ultimately helps these women regain control in their lives once again.
Phone: (562)-964-8178


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Beverly Dymond is a holistic health practitioner and cancer coach. She has a counseling and social work background, but she decided to get certified in The Body Code and The Emotion Code after experiencing emotional release with a practitioner during her own journey of physical and emotional pain. Beverly believes that it is vital for people with cancer to let go of trapped negative emotions for true healing to take place; physically, emotionally, and spiritually.

Listen to this podcast to find out more about what trapped emotions are, how they affect the healing process, and how The Body Code can help with releasing them.

1:58 I was working in Mexico at a natural clinic and what I found was every person that I worked with had some trauma and/or serious emotional trouble just before diagnosis that was not being addressed.

5:06 Trapped emotions can come from childhood or your ancestors and can be passed on through generations.

6:59 Negative emotions can be trapped in an organ or a gland and they can cause pain, discomfort, or imbalances.

8:02 Trapped emotions could be grief, unforgiveness, anger etc. that can cause issues with relationships.

11:52 If you want to talk during your session you can, but if you don’t want to you can just release it. So I like that you don’t have to relive things.

14:02 I wanted to take the course so I would have more knowledge and more understanding when I’m doing the Body Code. I’m glad I did. When I work with people with cancer I feel more equipped and more understanding, and I feel that I can help people to be more empowered to make their own choices.

16:01 Cancer can bring change to your life and make your life better than it ever was. It can be a roadblock but let’s take a detour. I want to help people with that.

19:30 Before I do a session I pray because I believe this is not my work. At the end of a session I send positive energy to the person because I want them to be hopeful and excited about their life. Even if their conscious mind says everything is horrible right now their subconscious mind will except my message that this is a good life, I’ve got a good future, I will be healthy and I’m healing.

Joe Gentle was diagnosed with stage 4 colon cancer 2 1/2 years ago. While he is still undergoing treatment, Joe is a cancer thriver and a Healing Strong group leader that wants to help others. He has a passion for being available to others to clear up all the confusing information and to let people know that they are supported and that healing is possible.

Listen to this podcast to learn about what has helped Joe on his healing journey, and how a Healing Strong support group meeting can help you on your healing journey.

3:07 Cancer patients can extend their life expectancy by 40% by losing weight and getting exercise. My doctor said to take 10,000 steps a day.

4:43 Modern convenience has cocooned us into this electric shell. Just getting out into nature and getting your feet in the ground (grounding) makes a big difference.

5:09 I’ve gone mostly vegetarian but Sunday is for comfort food. Diet and exercise have been big changes and I make sure I get my fruits and vegetables.

6:04 I do fresh vegetable juices to get as much nutrition into my body.

6:33 When I was at the hospital waiting to have my first surgery, the Lord touched me and said I was going to be all right.

7:21 I want to produce results in people’s lives.

9:55 A Healing Strong group meeting is a conversation with a coursework curriculums that I pass out before the meeting. The last meeting we talked about forgiveness and touched on breathing techniques, and also a prayer.

11:58 I took the Certified Holistic Cancer Coaching course with Beat Cancer because I realized early on that I was in over my head. I had only been focusing on colon cancer and solid tumors for 2 1/2 years. I needed a groundwork and a baseline understanding to take people from square one to square two gently, with love, letting them know we can do this. It’s doable. It’s a good hands-on practical approach that if you heal the body sometimes the cancer goes away.

13:48 Our Healing Strong group meetings meet once a month, but I am open to more if someone needs more. I’m in the Bay City Michigan area.

14:50 You can find a group meeting at where there is a map to look for meetings in your area. You can email or call me with questions. I am happy to help 24/7.

17:08 Healing Strong Is Bible-based but we are not a church and this is not an evangelical effort. We are trying to clear up confusion and help the people that are scared, alone and confused.

18:38 I hate it when someone’s eternity is screwed up. There’s a book called Cancer Can’t Kill You When You’re Already Dead by Dr. Kevin Connors. It’s a short read. It only took me one hour to get through, and it points out that this is not all there is. Eternity is real.

Linda Yalen’s own health journey of digestive issues, weight gain, and low cortisol from a high stress lifestyle led her on a path of discovery. She also has had many family members with cancer that she has helped. Today, she is an author and is certified as a health coach with IIN, cancer coach, herbalist, energy medicine practitioner, and she is currently taking a certification course on environmental toxins with Lara Adler.

Listen to this podcast to learn about the root causes of our symptoms and what can help. Please refer to the links for education on environmental toxins, essential oils, and the importance of organic food.

5:00 What I loved about Beat Cancer is they’re a non-profit and the course doesn’t teach coaches to tell people not to do the treatments they choose, but instead it backs up education with scientific proof which allowed me to speak with validity.

7:37 Stress is the number one cause of most diseases.

8:07 When cortisol levels get low from stress you are susceptible to disease. You can test cortisol levels with a saliva test. Reiki, grounding, and deep breathing will help put yourself in a good place energetically and will help balance your chakras, which are your energy points.

10:09 You can get blockages in your heart area from heartbreak which can allow breast cancer to develop if you don’t release stress and allow yourself to grieve when necessary. There is a relationship between energy flow and disease.

12:15 It is a good idea, pre-and post surgery to have an energy healer work on you so energy free flowing. It accelerate healing of the body. I specialize in crisis and hospice. Reiki also helps heal the family.

14:40 Hormones and digestive issues go hand-in-hand. Everything starts in the gut. You can get a gut test to see if you have nutrient deficiencies or food sensitivities. Sleep deprivation affects hormone health. It’s important to be tuned into your symptoms.

16:45 Health coaches come into play to help with symptom analysis, using tools and test to problem solve to find the root cause and then make small changes in the right direction.

19:15 Hydration and sleep play a huge role in our health, as well as environmental toxins and the foods we eat.

21:50 One important thing to do is to chew your food until it’s liquid so the body doesn’t have to work so hard to digest. Also, when you eat sit down, turn off the TV and do not multitask while you’re eating.

23:22 Being on computers until bed can affect our health because of the blue light they give off. Be aware of 5G, the devices in your home, and the environmental toxins in your environment. I am taking a course with Lara Adler who is an environmental toxins expert,

28:33 is the environmental working group and they go to place for safe products, food, cosmetics, etc. There is also a great app for your phone that they have.

Linda Yalen
Hebron, Connecticut
Phone: 860-494-0488
Clean Living Health

Cancer Coach, Health Coach, Grief Coach, TED X Speaker (From Bullied To Bold), and Author Diane Burton experienced bullying as a child because of her weight issues. Even after losing the weight, she was still carrying the negative self-image with her through her adult life. She finally was able to release it after becoming a grief coach, and now helps others to release pain and trauma so they can find their way out of dis-ease and into joy and peace.

Diane is an advocate to guide people to enhance their nutritional, psychological and immune status. She supports patient empowerment through individualized and innovative science-based resources in preventative, holistic, integrative, complementary and alternative medicine.

Listen to this talk to learn more about how negative talk and emotions impact our state of health and how important love and forgiveness are for healing to take place. Diane will talk about the emotional, spiritual, physical aspects that affect our immune system and how important it is for them to all be balanced.

3:00 The stories we tell ourselves are negative stories. In my TED talk I explain how I said negative things over and over as if those words were written on the mirror because when I looked in the mirror I saw that fat person. I saw ugly, stupid, and worthless instead of seeing the amazing creation God gave me.

3:50 When you carry bullying comments in your body it causes stress and dis-ease.

7:26 Stop and look at the rose like it’s the first time you saw it. Instead of being busy, be productive. Stop and ask yourself are you happy in life and finding joy, are you doing what God put you on this earth to do, and are you being your authentic self?

9:15 It’s emotional, spiritual, physical. I like to call these the three immune system’s. If one is out of whack they are all out of whack.

12:58 When people can love who they are they can love others. It won’t matter what somebody does to you, you will still have love for people. When we carry anger, depression and bitterness and hatred we cause illness and disease.

13:42 Love and forgiveness are everything. I had to forgive myself for beating myself up mentally. By forgiving myself I could forgive others and this gave me peace. I had to learn to take 100% responsibility for everything in my life and how I react and respond. When I learned to rejoice in all circumstances in my life and to look for the lessons, blessings, and gifts it turned into my ministry. My mess became my message.

16:15 A cancer diagnosis is not a death sentence. It can be a life sentence. It’s an opportunity to make changes in your life, the way they think, eat, and talk. Find the gifts in everything in life to find joy and peace.

19:49 Research has shown there are certain emotions tied to certain cancers. When we release the grief and trauma the body opens up to healing.

21:18 When you replay things and find yourself in negative thought processes that’s when you know you have stuff stuck down that you need to let go of.

22:22 The Master’s Masterpiece is my book. It’s a preacher’s wife’s journey from a broken and fat masterpiece to the Master’s Peace. It’s 10 chapters each is a question with 4 answers so people can do it like a 40 day devotional. It’s full of scripture with my story intertwined and talks about how to take care of yourself physically to be your best spiritually.

27:35 After I became a holistic cancer educator I realized cancer is only 5-10% genetic therefore I have to take care of myself. I invite the audience to have a 20 minute call with me by going to my websites and sending me a message or emailing me so they can heal the body before disease starts. And learn to eat to live instead of living to eat.

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Bonnie Schnautz is a Naturopathic Doctor, Loomis Digestive Health Specialist, and founder of B Renewed Wellness Solutions. Through Bonnie’s own health issues, she realized the power of food. She rid herself of the many symptoms that were causing her allergies, asthma, bouts of the flu and sinus infections, anxiety and depression, hormone issues, IBS, etc through whole organic foods. She also came to realize that emotional stress can override every good choice we make, and today uses meditation as her #1 tool. View this podcast to learn more about what emotional, physical, and nutritional/chemical stressors are and what we can do to achieve harmony in our bodies.

2:10 It was a fluke that I changed to an all organic diet and all my health issues went away.

5:00 Food can be our most healing modality or our worst poison. We know plant-based foods have fiber and antioxidants and that is what heals.

7:10 Through nutritional testing we can find the root cause, which falls under 3 areas of stress. Emotional, physical, or nutritional/chemical.

8:05 A big part of our testing is with neurotransmitters to see what is going on in the brain.

9:28 It was when I saw my transformation that I went back to school to be a naturopathic doctor. I needed more education to be equipped to work with people with cancer. I met Dr. Susan Silberstein and I was so impressed with her story, her credentials, and her teachings, and I knew I wanted that as part of my resources to help others. The program (certified holistic cancer coaching course) was a Godsend and Susan is such a gift. There are no guarantees, but the things that we teach cannot harm and are only going to help, whether you are doing full blown alternative treatment or we are supporting your treatment with your doctor.

11:42 What I was missing was the emotional component. And that’s what Susan brought to light. I ended up with adrenal fatigue and then I understood. Adrenal fatigue can develop into cancer. I was doing all the right things, but I wasn’t protecting my energy and my mind. I wasn’t protecting myself emotionally and I got sick.

13:28 The emotional component can override all of our choices.

15:04 Find someone you resonate with as far as meditation. Doctor Joe Dispenza has phenomenal research on healing through meditation. That’s the #1 way of balancing stress.

16:30 Through gratitude we can create self-love for healing.

18:05 Type A personality types are more susceptible to cancer and we need things to level us out.

21:10 Beat Cancer is such an incredible organization. I can’t recommend the free resources enough. I am forever grateful to Dr Susan Silberstein for her work and her research and the tools we have today because of her that we can use to help others to beat cancer and also prevent it for future generations.

Becky Kuehn started her journey in 1978 when she was diagnosed with a rare form of uterine cancer at the age of 18. She realized that there was not a lot of help for losing your eyebrows and your hair, or on how to deal with skin issues. She was in beauty school at the time and she really wanted to find a way to bring her schooling and cancer together, because when you go through the journey of having cancer, quality of life is so important and people need help to feel good on the outside. 

Listen to this podcast to learn about the services that are available to people with cancer who are having side effects from treatments or are in need of spa services to feel like themselves again. Also, if you a professional who could benefit from becoming oncology trained, this podcast is for you.
4:19 Radiation can cause different side effects and we help people going through radiation therapy to prep the skin with pure calendula oil. Immunotherapy or bio therapy and anti-cancer drug therapy all have side effects such as dry skin, rashes, red blotches, loss of color of skin, etc and we can help them be more comfortable and give them some normalcy back so they can go to work.
6:15 We offer free wigs at my 2 locations. We teach people how to put on brows safely with cosmetics.
7:09 I am in the Seattle Washington area working with the CHI group and 8 different hospitals. We offer treatments at no cost. With my teaching I have over 4500 grads, and throughout the US we have 26 locations where we have somebody in a cancer center that can help patients in that area. The goal is to have someone oncology trained everywhere in the US in salons and hospitals.
8:31 It is very important when you are looking for a spa professional to ask if that person has been oncology trained.
9:04 Incorrect massage can trigger lymphedema, so make sure if you have had lymph nodes removed that the massage therapist is trained in oncology.
10:06 We have grown from 6 classes in 2013 to 51 classes today. Oncology Aesthetics is now an official modality.
10:45 We just launched where there is a locator to find someone who is oncology trained.
11:37 I believe in continually learning. I found Susan and Beat Cancer and I flew out to Pa and took the Holistic Cancer Coaching course. I learned so much, especially how to work with someone holistically or whole body. Learning all that was so beneficial and I refer to that over and over.
13:00 The skin is the largest organ of the body and medications almost always express in the skin.
15:00 Doctors, nurses, massage therapists, nail techs, aestheticians, spa professionals and anyone who can benefit from this knowledge can take our class.

Part 2: Beat Cancer Board Member Emeritus Andrea Anderson with Nutrition Commission, Talks About ‘Learning How To Eat in a Healthy Way After A Cancer Diagnosis’

Following Andrea Anderson’s aggressive Stage 2B / Stage 3 breast cancer diagnosis while pregnant, she was faced with 42 years of eating habits that needed to be changed. Listen to this podcast to learn how Andrea navigated changing her eating habits, addressing the emotional needs behind her cravings, and structuring a plan to keep her on track. She is also sharing her daily juice and salad here: 

2:38 My friend wanted me to watch The Truth About Cancer. I watched all 9 part docuseries I learned about chemotherapy and the industry and I learned how food could heal.

3:43 Foods have the power to heal. In parallel, I was doing oncology and made an appointment with the Cancer Center For New Medicine because I heard their name on The Truth About Cancer Docuseries.

4:20 The foods that I ate as a kid with my family, the way we treated food, it was comfort and pleasure. Now I was introduced to food as medicine and in the state of chronic illness it’s about the therapeutic benefits of food.

5:06 I read The Anti-Cancer A New Way of Life book that became a guide for me.

5:43 I gave birth in July 2015 and my mother-in-law from Greece came and she was a big piece in learning how to cook veggies and how delicious they are with extra virgin olive oil, lemon and oregano, salt and pepper. It was exactly what my body needed.

7:34 I was juicing every day, first getting it from whole foods and flooding my body to make it alkaline and detoxing from chemotherapy at the same time. I was also taking baby steps to take out sugar, grains, alcohol.

9:43 Detoxing was also a big part of this with coffee enemas. I didn’t feel as sick as other people I’ve heard were. I bounced back after 2 days of every treatment. I was eating organic, good quality food.

11:37 I was feeling hungry and burned out. I didn’t know what to eat.

13:33 I did a slew of testing. I was taking about 60 supplements and did micronutrients testing, mitochondrial function testing, and a toxicity test for heavy metals. My A1C was good but nutritionally I still wasn’t good. This is where candida, parasites, and the gut health comes into it.

16:03 I felt like I was developing an eating disorder, orthorexia. People with chronic illness and cancer know they need to pivot and eat differently, but I almost wasn’t eating at all because I couldn’t get past the do not eat list.

19:17 I came across Chris Wark’s work. He healed with food and figured out how to make it simple. He taught me the trick of how to eat the same things every day. My life transformed at this point. I was focused on what I should eat and how to make it delicious. I incorporate different fats, textures, and the sweet and the creamy. It’s very low maintenance.

24:10 Half my plate is loaded with veggies, 1/4 of my plate is a protein source, and then the remaining is for olives or beans or complex carbs. I do olive oil on veggies and I cook with coconut oil in good cookware.

27:44 The sugar cravings were the toughest thing to battle. What worked for me was Bulletproof coffee with coconut oil and grass fed butter. I would do Intermittent fasting until 10-11am and break the fast with green juice.

31:25 You have to stop and think about what is fueling your desire for the food. I would look at food and say, why do I need this? What am I feeding? Do I need self care? A walk, a sauna, a hug? Slow down and connect with what’s behind the behavior.

36:47 I did coffee enemas 3 to 4 times a week, especially if I had strong cravings.

40:50 I have not felt like crap in the afternoon anymore because I eat a salad every day.

41:41 We didn’t go out to eat a lot.

43:22 I lifted the load of perfection because that made me sick, like eating disorder mentality. But I’m very careful about my habits.

47:28 You don’t want to put harmful things into your body and if you keep reaching for them you have to dig deeper and ask why do I need this? The urge is so powerful. What is it really about? Do I need to relax? Self-care? A hug? A walk? Reading a book? Mindfulness?

Andrea’s go-to Green juice in this order!

1 cucumber
2-3 celery stalks
1/2 romaine lettuce
2-3 handfuls of spinach
1/2 - 1 granny smith apple (low glycemic)
1 lemon w/ peel removed
1 ginger piece (about the size of your thumb) - add more if you prefer!

My Favorite Combination for Creating my perfectly, delicious Daily Salad! 

“Andrea’s Signature Salad”

Lettuces: I like to mix in 2 different lettuces and a few handfuls of each options (spinach, butter lettuce, or arugula) 

Veggies: Cucumbers + Broccoli Sprouts + Cauliflower Rice + little bit of Green onions (I stick with these all the time!)

Crunchy: Nuts. I’ll add in either pine nuts, walnuts, or pumpkin seeds. Entirely up to you but ensure they are plain and not store-bought as roasted.

Sweet: Fruit (ie, Pomegranates, Blueberries or Strawberries only!)

Salty: Roasted Sweet Potatoes cut into cubes – 1 tbspl of olive oil with Garlic Salt + Himalayan Salt + Cooked @ 400 for 45 min.

Sauerkraut! I love this stuff! I’ll buy Bubbies and put in about ¼ - ½ cup at least. Creates a great texture and ‘juiciness’ almost to your salad.

Garlic Olives. About 3-4!

Creamy: Healthy Fats & Beans. I cut up half of an Avocado + add in a Creamy Dressing Option + 1 tbls of olive oil to the salad to help blend up the creaminess.

I make a home-made, dairy-free Caesar Dressing ‘or’ sometimes I just a dollop of Avocado Chipotle ‘mayo’ from Primal Kitchen to give my salad a creamy kick!

Beans. I’ll add in a few ‘gigante’ beans which are mediterrean style and delicious! But I would limit these to no more than ¼ cup as a protein source to your salad.

Toppings: Organic, Hemp Hearts (I’ll put in 3 tbsp to get me 10 grams of plant-based protein!)

Cheese: Special Occasion - I might add a few sprinkles of organic goat cheese or feta from time to time!

Homemade, Dairy-Free, Caesar-like Salad Dressing (without anchovies!)– drop into food processor and blend! (Add 1 tbsp of water if needed to liquify to your liking)

  • 1 tbsp Dijon mustard
  • 1 tsp Worcester sauce
  • 1 pasture-raised egg
  • ½ cup to ¾ cup olive oil
  • 2 -3 cloves of garlic
  • Salt-


Direct download: BC-064_Learn_How_To_Eat_After_Diagnosis.mp3
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Breast cancer survivor and thriver, Sabine Hope was diagnosed with breast cancer in 2016. Despite the fact that she only ate organic food and used natural products her whole life, and had no family history she experienced breast pain that ultimately led to a cancer diagnosis. She had a deep sense that she had to find out the cause of this cancer to be able to fully heal, and she learned that there is so much more to health than green smoothies.

Listen to this podcast and learn about how Sabine got to the root cause of her breast cancer and how her journey led her to develop her holistic program, The 5 Essentials

6:03 Cancer came to me as a wake-up call and that I needed to listen. 

6:59 Through my research I found The Center For Advancement in Cancer Education. Finding the cancer coaching course with Beat Cancer was like coming home, because the things that I believed in were the same things that Beat Cancer had already researched and believed in.

8:00 I did training in Multi-brain Integration coaching which is based on neuroscience. We have a head brain, a heart brain, and a gut brain and they are connected via the vagus nerve. We can tap into our issues in the head by going deeper into the heart and the gut to get the answers we need. 

11:35 The more I work with women with breast cancer and in the world of cancer, I realize trauma and stress and emotional well-being are key.

13:28 I developed an approach to healing called the 5 Essentials-Nourish, Flourish, Detox, Move, and Love. Joy must accompany each element. 

17:24 It’s important to connect to what your passion is that makes you get excited to get up in the morning.

23:07 Back to normal can be a completely new normal. I do group coaching and 1-to-1 coaching and my approach is “From Breast Cancer to Butterfly”.

Direct download: BC-062_Intro_To_A_Coach_Sabine_Hope.mp3
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Kim Meacham was diagnosed with a rare form of lymphoma in 2016. With a determined spirit and a supportive wife, Kim went from being given 2 months to live to being in complete remission and feeling healthier than he ever had before.

Kim and his wife Ingrid started Health & Success to counsel people to improve their quality of life from preventable or holistically-treatable diseases or conditions.

Listen to this podcast to hear about the diet, lifestyle and spiritual changes he made that address all aspects of health necessary for healing.

5:11 Even though I thought I was eating the right way I wasn’t. I had an absolute problem with sugar.

5:44 Along with sleep deprivation, I was getting 5-6 hours of sleep a night from the time I was 11 years old.

7:19 I had a hernia surgery in January 2016 and the surgeon detected some lymph node activity.

8:21 I found a lump that came out in the back of my neck. They also started to develop in my armpits and abdominal and groin area. In 12/29/16 I was diagnosed with stage 4 mantle cell lymphoma with 100% proliferation rate. My tumors were doubling in size every week.

10:03 We continued down a holistic path to feed my body so it had the nutrients it needed to survive 4 months of chemotherapy and bone marrow stem cell transplant.

11:50 Bone marrow transplant surgery is one of the most invasive, toxic treatments anyone can go through.

13:21 In the 20 days that I was in the hospital, I walked 92 miles with my IV pole. Other patients started walking for the first time. My energy and true passion to live inspired others.

14:21 I was told I was cancer free but they missed a small cyst in my lower back and it started to grow. I got an appointment with Dr Michael Wong at MD Anderson.

16:48 I told my Dr. not to ever give me an expiration date, so Dr Wong told my family I had less than 2 months to live. There was a clinical trial in phase 2 that was put on hold due to brain toxicity.

18:56 My wife had discovered a dried form of vitamin D mixed with olive oil that was supposed to help reduce tumors on the brain. I had been doing that twice a day for 6 months. When it came time for the trial to begin they couldn’t find any lesions on my brain. I was the first person to do this trial after FDA approval.

20:58 I went through a 24 day stay at MD Anderson for the trial. I had a softball size tumor and about 18 other external tumors. We worked hard to support my body through the 400 hours of chemotherapy and never had nausea, diarrhea, mouth sores or a lack of energy. I hid my supplements and herbs from the hospital so they wouldn’t take them away.

24:18 It’s a travesty the food that hospitals are feeding people that are trying to heal.

25:33 I almost passed away twice during the procedure. I told my Dr. I don’t know what dying feels like but I’m not dying. I had a positive attitude and walked 2 miles a day.

30:21 It was my cells, not the chemotherapy, that ultimately took these tumors that were as large as a softball and now they’re just ugly scars.

31:00 Take your life in your hands and make your own decisions. Don’t let your doctor make your decisions. He’s an advisor. It’s your life. Make your own decisions.

32:24 Pick a decision and go down that path until something tells you that you need to make a fork in the path.

32:49 SEEDS- Acronym for SleepExercise, Emotion, Diet, and Supplementation at the cellular level.

35:32 I’ve been a green tea drinker for 40 plus years.

36:20 I do not miss a day of exercise. In 2017 I logged 1800 miles, and 2018 over 2000 miles. That was my internal drive. I do not recommend a hard core workout for someone who had been dormant. I believe in baby steps.

38:07 The emotional part of staying positive and focused on the task at hand is the biggest challenge. Meditation and prayer is a huge part of our life. I believe in energy. Positive energy from people praying for you makes a huge difference.

39:30 We eat 100 % organic, non GMO whole food. We have a substantial garden that I pick from.

40:22 I don’t tell anyone not to eat meat, but I personally don’t eat meat. If you do eat meat choose organic, pasture raised meat.

42:38 Do not eat dairy products. They are very inflammatory.

45:00 Processed and packaged is still processed and packaged. Read the ingredients.

45:55 Sleep deprivation and sugar were the culprits for my cancer.

47:53 It’s so important to have a cohesive family unit or support system for your treatment decisions. The vast majority of people that succumb to cancer succumb from a secondary diagnosis or from the treatments. The statistics just don’t prove that these treatments work for the vast majority

58:36 You need a cancer coach that tells you like it is, that gives you a direction that’s an option. What worked for me might not work for you, but I know that within a wide range of options there will be something that resonates with you. Because the only thing that works is something that you will follow.

1:00:1:01 I love the Beat Cancer site. You are providing a tremendous service to thousands of people and that’s why I decided to get the Cancer Coaching certificate because I have so much respect for what you are doing.

Kim Meacham
Plano, Texas
Kihealthandsuccess-Facebook, Instagram,YouTube
Direct download: BC-061_Intro_To_A_Coach_Kim_Meacham.mp3
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After reconstructive surgery from triple negative breast cancer, Beth received 3D nipple and areola tattooing. She was overjoyed to look “normal” again, and felt an overwhelming desire to learn this craft. She made it her mission to help fellow survivors to aesthetically match their outer physical beauty to their inward beauty in order to feel whole again. As a 5 year survivor and artist, she graduated from a course at Penn and now provides this service.

Listen to this podcast to learn about Beth’s journey and about the tattooing procedure.

:57 In 2014 I was diagnosed with stage 2 breast cancer. There were two tumors with two different types of cancer, one was the aggressive triple negative type. I had chemotherapy, double mastectomy, and proton therapy. I had a lot of issues after that including multiple skin infections.

2:24 I met with the Chief of Plastic Surgery at Penn and had Trim Flap surgery done where they make breasts from your stomach. 

3:57 I decided to get 3D areola and nipple tattooing done.

4:18 After getting tattooed I decided I wanted to do this for others. I have an art background, and after this procedure was done I skipped to my car. It changed my life. 

6:14-7:22 Listen here for details about about nipple and areola tattooing.

9:59 It made me feel like a woman again.

Beth provides consultations and answers questions. She is currently taking Beat Cancer’s certified holistic cancer coaching course.
You can contact her at:
Elizabeth Turnbull
Facebook: Elizabeth C. Turnbull LLC
Instagram: ElizabethCTurnbull

Jodie Lin is a mom of five beautiful children, a breast cancer survivor, a runner, an attorney, a musician, a personal trainer, a health coach, and a cancer coach. As a breast cancer survivor, she spent the past five years really delving into the impact food has on the body, which foods will benefit each individual, and which can cause harm. After realizing her own diet lacked the essential nutrients her body needed to heal from cancer, she became passionate about helping people to understand the inflammatory process that food can create as well as the impact of proper nutrition so that they can learn to make the best nutrition and exercise choices that will keep their individual body in optimal health.

Listen to this podcast to learn about Jodie’s journey from “pastatarian” to cancer coach as she navigates invasive ductal carcinoma and her passion to help others heal holistically from cancer.

1:25 It all started when I was a child and had to go on a lot of antibiotics for ear infections.

1:29 I became a vegetarian at the age of 10 purely by choice.

1:55 I was eating as a vegetarian later in life but was known as a “pastatarian” because I ate more pasta than vegetables. I ate iceberg lettuce. There was not a lot of the darker greens and color in my diet and fruit.

2:47 I had 5 kids and they opened my eyes to being able to be allergic to food and having inflammatory reactions to food and gut dysbiosis because of it.

3:31 Just before my 5th pregnancy I started a pain in my right breast.

4:00 I had a mammogram that showed micro calcifications and I was just to be monitored.

4:30 With the pregnancy of my 5th Child there was definitely telltale signs of something being wrong.

5:19 I went back to the Dr. 5 weeks after my son was born and had a follow up mammogram and I was told I had cancer.

5:38 80% of micro calcifications are benign.

6:00 There’s no breast cancer in my history. I was a runner and a mom of five and everything that I had read suggested that the more children you have the lower your likelihood of having breast cancer and I nursed them all which lowers your risk and I was very fit and healthy and at a healthy weight. So there was nothing in the literature to suggest that someone in my position we get breast cancer.

6:45 I had DCIS, ductile cell carcinoma in situ. I had a mastectomy and 7 weeks of radiation.

7:09 I really wanted to get to the root cause. I started to do research and learned about the impact of nutrition and that the sugar and soy I was eating, as well as white flour and processed foods was damaging my body.

8:02 I went to the Institute of Integrative Nutrition and became a health coach.

8:08 Eight years later I was doing great and I had put this all behind me until I started having pain in my right breast again, where I had an implant.

8:54 During the year prior to my diagnosis I experienced a lot of stress and trauma. My sister was diagnosed with cancer and my brother-in-law’s sister had been diagnosed with her 3rd round of metastatic breast cancer and passed away and my father passed away unexpectedly.

10:50 Through faulty testing with an MRI without contrast dye they decided my implant ruptured.

11:20 I went in for what was supposed to be a three hour surgery and they removed a lump that was tested and came back as invasive ductal cell carcinoma.

12:00 The piece I was missing was managing my stress. They caused inflammation and weakened my immune system.

12:22-13:50 I came to to understand my situation and to help others.

16:48 I've been trying yoga to quiet my mind. I’ve been journaling to help me cope. We are practicing gratitude as a family.

17:34 Everyone has to find the stress management mechanism that will work for them. Could be yoga, gratification, journaling or breathing.

18:15 JKL Well Health Coaching stands for Just Clean Living.

18:44 I like to do food testing to make sure the foods that people are eating or not causing them inflammation.

19:20 Symptoms are not always just gas and bloating. They can be eczema, psoriasis, joint inflammation, arthritis, hair loss etc.

2:23 I’ve always been one who likes to take care of people and a people pleaser, which goes along with breast cancer too, it’s that type a personality. 

2:31 I went to the Peace Corps after college and was diagnosed with amoebas, giardia, and parasites and I had over 40 immunizations as well in the Peace Corps. When I got home I was never the same. I had no energy.

3:20 In 2016, I was running around with kids, had a stressful job, was not eating or sleeping well, and I was diagnosed with cancer. The source was my gut microbiome, the parasites, root canals, and cavitations that were identified on a dental thermogram.

4:25 Even though I was a people pleaser, I stood up to conventional doctors and said I’m not going to do chemotherapy and radiation. I knew I was running on fumes and I knew my body well enough to know it wasn’t going to work for me.

6:15 Vitamin C, and HOCATT- an infra-red sauna, ozone therapy with PEMF were all part of my treatment.

6:30 Or conventional approach is a one-size-fits all method, and when you treat cancer it has to be multi-pronged approach, because all of our bodies are different.

8:42 When you are diagnosed, you have time and choices and you don’t know that at first. Time is important. Take as long as you need to come up with a plan that resonates with you. Women have a great gut instincts we need to listen to.

9:57 I just put out a blog and a movement for healing breast cancer versus fighting breast cancer. It is counterproductive when you fight anything. Your body goes into fight or flight mode which means stress, which leads to inflammation, which leads to disease that can appear as auto immune disease or cancer.

10:52 My life needed to change. I was a people pleaser and had type A personality. I’ve learned to focus on me. Me first, then family.

11:14 For stress I walk my dogs in the morning while forest bathing and doing affirmations by Louise Hay, to get my mind out of fear. We must heal the mind first. The suppression of emotions, stress, and holding back resentments needs to be healed. It’s critical to find out where you are in your mind. Then I do 15 minutes of meditation and 20 minutes of yoga outside for extra grounding. And I also do rebounding once or twice a week with shoes on

13:17 I also see a therapist because I felt really heavy emotionally and I wanted to preserve relationships with my family.

18:46 I am a school counselor as well, so I’ve been meeting with students whose moms have cancer and they are hurting and having a hard time coping. I am working with kids and coaching moms to help their kids.

20:11 In my home there are no guessing games. My children know where I am and I share all the results of my tests. We have a meeting once a month for our family to talk and we keep the lines of communication open with our children.

20:47 The holistic cancer coaching course with Beat Cancer filled in the blanks for me with things I didn’t know so I could walk the walk. It empowered me and educated me to reach out and help others. It has great information and includes a great support system with other coaches. It hits on many topics to support others on their healing journey.

Jackie is passionate about counseling mom’s with cancer and their children.
Specialties: Holistic Cancer Coach, Integrative Nutrition Health Coach, MS Psych/Counseling
Phone: 218.851.8875

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Intro To A Coach: Mari Beth Nicastro-Price

Becoming Disease Free Involves a Lifestyle Change

1:18 I thought I was living a healthy lifestyle, but in 2017 I was diagnosed with breast cancer. I did a ton of research and I found out it’s not just what you eat. It encompasses a whole lifestyle change.

2:12 I hired a health coach myself and she got me through. It was a hard decision, but I opted out of conventional treatment and made lifestyle nutrition changes and now I’m cancer free.

3:20 I wished I could help people with all the knowledge I had, especially cancer patients, because every cancer journey is so unique.

How Beat Cancer’s Holistic Cancer Coaching Course Helped Her To Heal Herself and Others

4:39-5:20 I found and your coaching certification and I was so excited I signed up that day and did it alongside the IIN year-long health coach certification.

5:53 I had genetic testing done but it wasn’t for me. It threw me off. They just test you and tell you you have this gene and that gene. But a lot of people that have breast cancer don’t have that gene. I’m one of them. We all have mutated genes but it’s the way they were expressed that we have control over. A lot of it is about stress. I had stress and did not manage it well. It’s a whole lifestyle change needed.

7:39 You can’t just eat whole foods and expect to be disease-free. There’s a lot that goes with that that needs to happen.

Stress Relief, Nature, Taking Breaks, and Making Healthy Eating Changes

9:28 My favorite stress relief technique is being out in nature. I do a lot of hiking and that’s where I am at peace. My morning routine starts at 5:30. I write in my gratitude journal then I go outside and it’s my meditation time.

10:56 We are bombarded with light from TV, computers, phones, etc. My surgeon told me how that messes with your circadian rhythm.

12:45 My coworkers had been very stressed. We take a 15 minute walk in the morning and a 15 minute walk in the afternoon. You also get in touch with your spiritual side on a walk.

14:57 Cancer is not like it used to be. It’s not a death sentence anymore.

18:30 You need to recognize the root cause and fix it because you can’t keep going on the same way.

20:53 My lentil soup recipe on my website, is one of my favorites.

21:15 I’m a big believer in essential oils.

23:49 I try to teach my clients to crowd out your food instead of depriving yourself. I start with a huge salad with every vegetable you can imagine. Portion-wise that’s my main meal. Then I will have a little meat and/or maybe a little piece of sweet potato or quinoa.

24:40 So the only thing you have to cut out is processed foods and refined sugar.

Mari Beth Nicastro-Price consults with people for prevention education or to support those with a cancer diagnosis.
Facebook: Beyond Nutrition Coaching

The group of people most susceptible to getting cancer are those people who've already had it once and haven't made any changes to their diet, lifestyle, and other key risk factors.  They typically haven't figured out what got them in trouble in the first place and addressed those issues.  Whether you've had cancer once before or you'd like to never get cancer, having a simple cancer prevention game plan can make the difference.  In this podcast we'll talk about how you can begin to take an active, conscious role in preventing cancer.  At the Center for Advancement in Cancer Education we believe cancer is a highly preventable disease and that prevention starts with well thought out game plan.
A simple game plan starts with a diet high in fruits and vegetables while reducing sugar, processed foods, meat, dairy, and omega-6 fats.  Of course smoking is a key risk factor and should not be a part of a cancer prevention game plan.  Getting 30 minutes of exercise a day can lower cancer risk considerably.  Exercise can be as simple as going for a 30-minute walk on a daily basis.  Another important aspect of a game plan it considering what negative or trapped emotions we're holding onto.  Working through these by talking with a close friend or counselor can be an important step in living more joyfully and reducing cancer risk.  It's also important to consider the level of stress in one's life.  People tend to know when their lives have become overstressed.  The key then is to take action steps to reduce stress, perhaps by changing jobs or ending toxic relationships.  Simple stress relieving techniques like exercise, spending time in nature, meditation, EFT (Emotional Freedom Technique), yoga and Tai Chi can be helpful.  Encouraging your "internal terrain" to detoxify on a regular basis is important for creating an inhospitable environment for cancer cells to grow.  We can do this by fasting, cleansing, juice cleansing, sweating out toxins in a sauna, and improving detoxification through colon hydrotherapy.  One final element to a cancer prevention game plan is to be mindful of sun exposure. Getting 20-30 minutes of sunlight on the skin each day, preferably in the morning, is important in helping the body to create Vitamin D.  Vitamin D is actually a hormone that greatly reduces cancer risk when maintained at a healthy level.  Supplementing with Vitamin D during the winter months is often necessary to maintain optimum levels.  If making many changes feels overwhelming, then consider making one change each month.  By the end of a year you'll have adopted a cancer prevention lifestyle.  Prevention is the cure!

What if you could grow one of the most potent sources of an apoptosis (cancer cell suicide) inducing compound right in your own kitchen? You can! And this can be accomplished easily in 5-7 days. I'm referring to broccoli sprouts, the most potent source of sulforaphane we know. Stalks of broccoli are a great source of sulforaphane, but broccoli seeds grown into sprouts have been shown to have an impressive 50 to 100 times more of this important compound. As if that weren't enough, they actually taste good and can be used in smoothies, on salads, sandwiches, or a topping on pretty much any dish. These sprouts can be grown in a few easy steps. Broccoli seeds can be purchased at your local health food store or online. The first step is to take a 1/2 cup of seeds and soak them overnight. Using a strainer or jar with a mesh screen they can be rinsed and then allowed to sit somewhere in your kitchen. It's important that the seeds stay moist throughout the process and are not placed in direct sunlight until the very end of the process. Continue the rinsing step 2 or 3 times a day over the next 3-5 days. Again, the key is to keep the seeds moist. On the 3rd or 4th day they will start sprouting. Once they have had a day or two to sprout they can be placed near a window or outside to receive some direct sunlight. This will help them green up and be ready to be eaten. Enjoy!

Direct download: BC-055_How_To_Grow_Cancer_Fighting_Broccoli_Sprouts.mp3
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Melissa Eppard is a 5 year survivor of triple negative breast cancer. Having been immersed in the holistic healing world before diagnosis, Melissa knew it was her calling to be a coach for cancer survivors. She is particularly passionate about being a support for people with a cancer diagnosis in the 20s-50s age group who deal with the complex nature of raising children, caring for aging parents and working. Often times finances are affected, relationships are affected and fear of recurrence is strong. Melissa believes that as a someone who has been through this experience she lends a great deal of support and wisdom. 

Some Of Her Favorite Tools For Healing:
5:58 I love to use guided visualization. There are some great scripts I use with people. I am also trained in EFT (Emotional Freedom Technique) which is tapping on acupuncture meridian points with a issue in mind. It is a powerful transformational tool.
10:40 Humor was a good tool to help me heal. Children are real teachers that show us how to play and how to stay in the moment.

How Beat Cancer’s Certified Holistic Cancer Coaching Course Helped Her to Heal Herself and Others

14:20 As a life coach and wanting to work with those with cancer, the course has filled the need for resources and deeper information on how to manage side effects and stay healthy when you have cancer. I love Beat Cancer’s approach in treating the person and not the cancer. 
14:49 There is selfish component for taking the course also. I was a survivor of 4 years when I discovered the course and it has helped me to stay on track with things like nutrition and pumping the lymphatic system. There are so many great references to books and studies that I filled a whole notebook taking notes.
15:50 The depth of information from the course would’ve taken me years to compile.
16:12 It has inspired me to stay the course and keep eating the right foods and doing the right things.
We Need Each Other To Heal
22:09 Together we heal. We need each other. My greatest source of hope and light for me when I was going through my battle was hearing from other cancer survivors that had been through it and were living their lives years later. When I got my diagnosis a black curtain fell and I could not see beyond it.
22:46 Connect with your future self. Have a dialogue with that part of you. What does that future person want for you? What special tools and gifts does your future self have to give you now so you can come through this empowered.
Melissa coaches people remotely or in person in Kingston, NY. Please visit her blog site also. What you nurture will grow.

Andrea Anderson was at the top of her career and running on coffee, sugar and adrenaline. As a runner and an athlete she thought she was very healthy. Because her mother was diagnosed with breast cancer at age 39, she had 3 mammograms in her 30s with nothing detected and no mention of dense breasts. She started IVF cycles at the age of 39. For the next 2 1/2 years she loaded her body with hormones and eventually became pregnant. At week 30 of her pregnancy, May 2015 she went to her OB/GYN appointment and told her doctor she found a lump.

Andrea bravely takes us on her journey through her biopsy and diagnosis of aggressive Stage 2B / Stage 3 breast cancer, and her emotional experience of deciding on treatment, reflecting on her lifestyle choices, dealing with information overload and coping with the fear and anger that accompanies a cancer diagnosis. 

Listen to this podcast for a raw account of Andrea’s experience with the industry, with chemotherapy, with alternative treatments, and with finding the bless in the mess. She wants people to have the benefit of her experience and she is available for personal support and encouragement. 

You can also contact her directly through her health and wellness site at Nutrition Commission for support and information.

After losing her husband to a very rare form of cancer and being diagnosed herself with stage III breast cancer and having 16 out of 18 lymph nodes removed, Linda knew it was time to learn more about integrative health, nourishing the body, spirit and mind, to heal and treat herself – simply to survive.

Linda specializes in the alkaline/acidic effects on the body, truly defining healthy eating that is crucial for those who have been diagnosed with cancer. Her practice incorporates integrative lifestyle counseling and the Healing Arts Techniques of Jin Shin Jyutsu, Healing Touch, and Raindrop Therapy. Her philosophy is that optimal health is achieved by bringing balance and harmony to mind, body and spirit, starting at the cellular level.

Listen to this podcast to learn her philosophies and what has kept her cancer free for 15 years.

3:14 They thought I would have a reoccurrence within five years and possibly a lifespan of nine. It’s now 15 years and I’ve watched my three children grow up. There was a lot of stress so I think that had a lot to do with it because there was nothing in my family tree.

3:36 I was so grateful and luck

3:36 I was so grateful and lucky to have found Dr. Susan Silberstein. She was my lifeline. Through her books, her website and her teachings I found that I wanted to take her class (Holistic Cancer Coaching Course) and realized with this toolbox of information that I had I wanted to share it with others.

4:22 I just wanted to help people so I went to nonprofit organizations. A lot of people can’t afford to pay $250 an hour for a nutritionist. I did a lot of nonprofit work and since 2010 have counseled over 800 people.

4:55 I will always be grateful to her (Dr Susan Silberstein) and her teachings and what she’s brought to the cancer community itself.

5:36 She (Dr Susan) lead me onto the path of not only wanting to help others, but realizing that you can have your nutrition and do the right things and feed your body and food as medicine, but then life hits you and stress and just so much that goes on that are cells as energy react to that puts us in a bad spot. That’s why I started to learn about Jin Shin Jyutsu, healing energy medicines, herbs, crystals, sound healing.

8:58 I’m a mobile office essentially because then I can offer my services at very low cost.

9:44 I took the path less traveled and found that it’s been a very good path.

10:05 I wrote Survolve. I never like the word survivor because I believe we survived, yet we evolve and that’s where that came from.

12:13 with Dr. Susan‘s meal plan, you can fill that out and look at foods that you’re eating and replace them and eliminate others.

15:03 You really need a coach and some tools and someone to follow you. You need that kind of support because that’s a big lifestyle change and it’s overwhelming to just get the diagnosis. Coaches can bridge the gap between the medical community and alternative options and what’s available is tremendous.

16:55 Energy therapies are so important. Meditation and anything that can take your mind off that problem. Something as simple as writing something down and burning it. A ritual to make you feel better and say, OK that’s gone. On to the next thing.

17:35 I have found that being grateful, and also a little mantra I found when I was diagnosed, that someone has it worse. So let me be thankful for what I do have.

18:57 Her website explains her services and has recipes, education and resources.

Kerry Hardy is passionate about helping people heal through alternative and non-pharmacological modalities that treat the mind-body-spirit connection. She specializes in dealing with cancer and hospice, and uses her expertise as a Reiki Master, Pranic healer, certified crystal healer, doTerra wellness advocate, and aromatherapist to raise vibration so the body is not hospitable to cancer.

Kerry is a member of Beat Cancer’s Medical Advisory Panel and is also certified as a Beat Cancer Holistic Cancer Coach.

1:48 Working as a hospice nurse and working with cancer patients in the Yale community, we had cancer patients that would graduate and not transition to hospice and some of that did not. So I learned an awful lot through my patience of what works and what didn’t.

2:16 I also found Reiki energy work on my personal journey and that really help me tune in to who I was and what I needed for my own healing.

2:29 That big package of holistic mentality of the mind, the body and the spirit started to come together for me as I was working with patients and seeing those who could connect and those who didn’t. There really was a difference there in the success rates of those who healed.

3:37 there’s chemo and there’s radiation and surgery and there’s a place for all of them at the right times if that something that’s really going to work for you. But if it doesn’t resonate with you it’s something to really sit and turn into and search for other options.

4:09 When we start talking about the mind and the mental thought patterns and your energy field it all sounds crazy, but it’s not because we are energy. Everything is energy and everything is a different frequency.

4:27 what you really need to do is raise your vibration to a healing frequency so disease can dissipate.

5:48 I love essential oil‘s and they all have different frequencies. Frankincense is 147 this helps raise your vibration.

6:19 frankincense has been shown in labs to destroy a mutated DNA cell.

6:35 Myrrh has been shown to inhibit damage cells by getting into the RNA and not letting it replicate again.

7:08 to boost your immune system there’s oil’s such as cinnamon and clove.

7:31 crystals are another beautiful way to raise your vibration. They actually have energy and you can learn to work with them and utilize the energy.

8:44 Reiki is a Japanese method of bringing in source energy, whatever you believe source that is, God or spirit or the universe.

11:30 The neatest thing is that it works distantly because we are all connected. It’s really not this crazy idea that people like to label it.

14:21 there is no cookie-cutter recipe for healing and getting to the root cause and the root problem of why you got cancer in the first place is huge.

17:58 Love is healing in itself and we know that but we don’t talk about it.

Kerry Hardy
Boulder, CO
Certified Holistic RN
Certified Holistic Cancer Coach
Medical Intuitive
Reiki Master

A 15 minute phone consultation is always complementary to discuss your journey

Five Time Cancer Survivor, Dr. Marilyn Joyce, Takes Us On Her Journey from Having 2 Weeks to Live to Being Known as, The Vitality Doctor

Dr Marilyn Joyce has the unique combination of being a Registered Dietician, as well as having a PhD in psychology. She is an internationally renowned author, educator, speaker and trainer, and was the Director of Nutrition for the Cancer Treatment Centers of America. She has appeared on many TV shows, including Leeza, Jenny Jones, Montel Williams and Maury Povich.

She is the author of several unique, inspiring and comprehensive books, including her best selling books, Five Minutes to Health, I Can’t Believe it’s TofuThe Original Hollywood Celebrity Diet, Instant E.N.E.R.G.Y.: The 5 Keys To Unlimited Energy and Vitality and The Stress To Success Formula: Transform Your Life, Career and Business Now!She is known as the Master of 5-minute healthy strategies and tips that anyone can do anywhere, anytime. Marilyn’s slogan is, 5 Minutes…5 Times A Day…Instant Energy & Maximum Stress Release Guaranteed!

At the height of her career, and only 35 years old, she was diagnosed with melanoma, and then stage 4 uterine cancer. She went in and out of cancer for 5 years, until she found herself in a wheelchair at 88 lbs with a 2 week prognosis.

Listen to learn about Marilyn’s turning point, her miracle weekend, and how 1 year later she ran a mile!

5:39 In 1989, at 88 pounds and in a wheelchair unable to eat or drink anything, the only thing I could do was suck on ice chips.

6:15 I survived childhood abuse and I was a runaway at 14 so there was a lot of this underneath that I survived and I think it gave me the strength that I wasn’t going to quit.

7:02 The turning point happened at a home my daughter took me to after being given two weeks to live. At a Vitamix demo, I was given cantaloupe, including the seeds and I didn’t throw up.

9:03 I was dragged off to another program with Dr. Bernie Siegel with 900 people in the audience. At a break Dr. Siegel came over and asked me what was going on. I told him, and he asked me if I’d ever done a gratitude journal.

11:53 Dr. Siegel said, what you focus on is what expands, and literally I focused on what I was grateful for. So I got a lot more to be grateful for, including 30 years more on planet earth.

12:48 It became apparent that I had survived beyond my two week prognosis. And if I could do that maybe I could do it longer.

14:40 One year later I ran a mile. It took me 30 minutes. There was hope. They told me stage four uterine cancer would come back so I figured I’d take a trip. I drove to New Mexico and my world became an open world.

17:53 My first book, 5 Minutes to Health, was dedicated to Dr. Bernie Siegel.

19:31 Dr. Siegel had said to me, do you see cancer as your friend?

20:01 He said, "What if you thought of cancer as a teacher? What do you think will be trying to teach you?"

22:04 Let go and let God

22:10 Have fun, laugh, be with friends, be social. Work is not everything.

22:39 If you don’t like what you’re doing quit. Find something you’re passionate about. We didn’t come to this earth to be unhappy and struggle.

24:27 I have an expression that I say, take five to say five and what that means is take five minutes to say five years because I lost five years to cancer.

25:37 Make time and just put on the music, set the timer and start breathing in a rhythmic pattern. Breath in for 4 seconds, hold for 4, and out for 4.

26:46 Whatever comes up release it, because that’s how we learn to release stress by letting things come up, dealing with it, and releasing it.

27:14 Take it to the next step. Earthing or grounding is just taking off your shoes and socks and walking in the earth, sand, or grass. And do the same breathing pattern for five minutes or longer. Research shows sticky blood platelets all stuck together, in five minutes of doing this and the breathing they all separate and go their merry way and blood flow is way better and nutrition gets into your cells more easily.

30:18 People spend 90% of their time indoors right now and that’s not the way people lived in the old days. We need to get out and reconnect to nature, hug a tree, listen to the birds and walk every day and stop and smell the roses.

31:18 We get stuck behind a desk and my philosophy is, every hour get up and get off your seat and on your feet and do something different. Changing your state is critical and regenerates your spirit and your physical body at the same time.

39:29 5 keys to unlimited energy and vitality. The E is for, Exhale fully first so you can inhale fully. The N is for nutrition. The second E is for exercise for cellular rejuvenation. The R is for rest, relax, and rejuvenate. The G is for gratitude. And the Y Is for making it yours and what works for you because there are hundreds of strategies.

Joseph Brown founded the Carla Rose Foundation in honor of his late wife, Andrea Carla Frasier-Brown and his late mother, Ruby Rose Brown. This non-profit foundation raises money for people seeking alternative treatment and provides payment assistance to alternative care clinics. Joseph started this foundation because he felt his wife’s traditional treatment was debilitating and that there must be a better way to heal. He also wanted to reduce the stress of the financial burden on people trying to heal from cancer.

Joseph is also opening his first wellness center in Spartanburg South Carolina on September 30, 2019. It will be open to prevention seekers as well as anyone with a diagnosis of cancer or any other health issue. They will be providing many services including nutrition counseling, juicing, cooking demonstrations, lifestyle modification seminars, stress relief technique education, yoga, massage, spa and relaxation services, meditation, and art classes through their partnership with the Chapman Cultural Center. They are having a fundraising gala August 17, 2019 at the Chapman Cultural Center to raise funds for the opening of the wellness center. 

Joseph is using the education he received through Beat Cancer’s Certified Holistic Cancer Coaching course to headline the wellness center. We are so happy to help Joseph provide such needed services. 

If you have a cancer diagnosis and need assistance funding alternative treatment please check their website at You can also find information on attending their new wellness center and their fundraising gala, as well as donation information, including purchasing their beautiful bracelets that honor different cancers. 

Joseph Brown 
Founder of The Carla Rose Foundation

Intro To A Coach Ruth Phillips, Oncology RN

Founder of Guide For Hope: A Shelter from the Storm


Ruth Phillips started her 25+ year career in hospice, helping people and their families to find peace at end of life. She then transitioned to oncology nursing. During her career she developed a desire to educate and help people prevent cancer. She decided to become a Certified Holistic Cancer Coach through Beat Cancer so she could help people in a way that nurses did not have the time to do at the patient bedside. She really enjoyed learning about nutrition and complementary therapies from the course. She helps people to understand the benefits of healing nutrition and also the need for resolving emotional issues. She promotes meditationreiki, prayer, exercise, and yoga as she has seen the positive changes from these complimentary therapies. Ruth also helps people to understand complicated medical language and to develop open communication with their doctor. Ruth’s services at Guide For Hope also include cardiac coaching as many of the medications people are taking for cancer have cardiac implications.

Ruth Phillips, Oncology RN
Founder of Guide For Hope: A Shelter from the Storm

Dr Bernie Siegel, named one of the Top 20 Spiritually influential People on the Planet and Holistic RN Kerry Hardy deliver a healing message: Listen to your heart, Live in joy, Live an Authentic life and Healing Happens

Dr Bernie Siegel left his position as Assistant Clinical Professor in General and Pediatric surgery at Yale University because in his words, “I cared about people”. His first book, Love, Medicine, and Miracles served to redirect his path in life. He originated Exceptional cancer patients, a specific form of therapy using drawings, dreams, images, and feelings. The physical, spiritual, and psychological benefits that followed led his desire to make everyone aware of their healing potential.

Kerry Hardy is a Holistic RN, reiki master, certified crystal and panic healer, and holistic cancer coach with Beat Cancer. She wants everyone to know that we are all energy, and if we want to heal from cancer we need to raise our vibration, and honor the mind-body-spirit connection that exists in all of us.

Listen to this podcast for amazing stories of healing through love, raising one’s vibration, energy medicine, connecting to your feelings and desires, following one’s heart, living authentically and with meaning, giving your troubles to your higher power, laughter, and other methods. This is a truly inspiring message from 2 traditionally trained medical professionals that is anything but traditional.

4:27 the diagnosis helps the doctor but it doesn't help the patient. Doctors need to know the patient’s story and then treatment can begin.

5:32 My patients told me they feel better in my office but they said they need to know how to live in between office visits. I saw over and over that if you help people live their body got the message and it changed things.

7:35 So he says to people to pay attention to your feelings and let your heart make up your mind and then a lot of wonderful things happen.

7:79 I don’t want people to fight a war with cancer because then you empower your enemy.

9:11 I asked a woman who healed a large tumor from pancreatic cancer how she did it and she said “I left my troubles to God” Wouldn’t that be a nice way for everybody to be cured? And how peaceful you'd feel if every morning you got up and said, God today I'm not gonna get upset. I'm not gonna worry.” That’s why I started cancer support groups.

12:55 Those who have meaning in their life, ask for help, help others, laugh etc do well.

29:17 I think people need to understand it’s okay to say no, it's okay to ask for favors, and have some meaning in your life.

29:26 Monday morning we have more heart attacks, strokes, suicides, and illnesses. No it ain't Monday, it's the people and how they feel because again that's one of the first things in the immunocompetent personality. Do you have a sense of meaning in daily activity and support? So if getting up on Monday and it is your way of contributing to the world and people it's not a threat, but if its “Oh damn it it's Monday I have to go to work" you are better off getting sick, then you don't have to go.

30:54 Crystals, essential oils, plant medicine, getting back to nature, realigning with the cycles of nature and what we’re putting into our bodies and whether it's raising or lowering our vibration is really so important. And it all comes back to that self-love.

31:21 Love heals. Love is vibrational positive thoughts and removing that negative from your environment and your physical. It is so important.

31:49 Those who fought the cancer and made it a negative were not as successful as those who accepted it because it's a part of you. You're now dis-eased. Your body is imbalanced so the cancer takes over and it's part of you, so you actually need to love the cancer and the message that you're getting so that you can heal from it. Why did you get the cancer?

34:45 The mind, the body, and the spirit. That connection needs to be whole and working for true healing

35:04 If you're not addressing the mental piece of the thoughts that gave you the cancer or that spiritual piece because you're not connecting with your true self then the healing process is slowed or it's non-existent so that connection is important and it has to come from your heart.

40:42 Becoming mindful, meditating, doing those types of practices like yoga, but finding the one that works for you, that resonate with you. I truly believe in the power of Reiki and energy healing in all different ways, and that Reiki can really get into the subconscious. It can heal the spirit, it can heal your mind, and some of those mental patterns and the physical as well with chronic pain and some of those symptoms that you're getting.

53:27 Jesus said, " It is done unto you as you believe."

57:01 Instead of calling it spontaneous healing, why don’t we say "what the hell did you do to get better?"

58:19 Lose the untrue self and you'll get a gift. Your body will know how you feel and will do everything it can to keep you going. You need help, ask. Don't use the disease as a way of getting attention.

62:23 If you had 15 minutes to live what would you do?

62:49 What's your chocolate ice cream in life? Go live your chocolate ice cream and what a wonderful life you can then have.

63:55 365 Bernie’s book: Prescriptions For the Soul

Dr Bernie Siegel’s website:

Kerry Hardy’s website:

Debbie (Melamed) Nicholson, from BeatCancer.Org interviews Shannon Sayers, Holistic Cancer Coach, and Nicole Daruda founder of and the largest FaceBook Support Group of its kind on how breast implants of all kinds cause cancer, according to the FDA.

Breast Implants: An Epic Health Crisis>/h4>

Nicole Daruda: Marked Symptoms Developed The First Couple Years After Breast Implants

3:17 I started to get symptoms and illnesses that I didn’t have before implants. In fact I was perfectly healthy before implants.

4:39 more symptoms came on to the point that I actually had to leave my career.

5:17 I came across the information of breast implant associated lymphoma cancer, cancer cause directly from breast implants so I immediately move to explant my breast implants.

Breast Implants Poison Women

5:46 When I woke up from surgery my surgeon brought my implants to me and they smelled and wreaked of terrible chemicals, like the smell of nail polish remover and formaldehyde

6:48 The silicone shell becomes permeable in the human body as time goes by

7:49 The FDA is very aware that we’ve gathered on social media and that we are a large group of women between 65,000 and 100,000 women spreading awareness

8:59 after you take out the implants you go through a process of detoxification from the chemicals that were leaking inside of me, all the accumulated chemicals and heavy metals that are inside these implants.

Shannon Sayers Was Sick Within 6 months, From Pneumonia to Being Sick All The Time

12:21 16 years later I woke up with a lump on my right implant.

12:51 I had a lump back to me and I was told it was cancer.

14:25 I had a double mastectomy and decided to do reconstruction and that’s when the nightmare started. It was about four months into the expanders and all of a sudden I had bone pain in my legs and hips that was excruciating and I was hospitalized. There’s a metal portal in the tissue expander and every two weeks I was getting injections to fill the skin and it was leaching into my bone marrow.

15:41 I had those implants out and my doctor said the ones going in were FDA approved and 100% safe. Rashes, pneumonia and viruses started

The FDA Announced That Textured Implants Were Causing Lymphoma.

17:05 you fight to live when you are told you have cancer and now I had it again

19:00 I called over 30 surgeons within three months to explant

22:47 lists symptoms and tests

23:52 Silicone was first invented as a pesticide by Dow It is an endocrine disrupter

25:16 Symptoms that occur in the beginning aren’t related to the breast. Those symptoms come on later. At first they are immune dysfunction symptoms immune deficit symptoms, autoimmune symptoms and endocrine disrupting symptoms.

26:24 once you recognize your symptoms on the list look for a qualified explant surgeon. There’s a list on my site.

28:03 Saline symptoms cause many of the same symptoms as silicone and more

28:13 Saline fluid inside the implant becomes like a dirty aquarium with all sorts of microorganisms that start to grow. Silicone and saline implants have a port where the implant is filled and the port gathers human fluids and tissues and begins to mold. If the valve is defective mold crosses right in to the implant.

28:51 We see tons of implants Brown and black with mold.

Breast Implants Are Ticking Time Bombs

30:34 It’s just a matter of time. It’s not if you’re going to get sick, it’s when

38:12 The FDA is having an open safety meeting with us in March. We want textured implants off the market. The FDA has announced an association including saline and silicone, smooth and textured implants.

Nicole Daruda 
Facebook: Breast Implant Illness and Healing With Nicole 
Shannon Sayers
Holistic Cancer Coach with Beat Cancer. She has a breast cancer and implant awareness blog at
Facebook Support group: Survived Breast Cancer Alternatively
Book called Army Strong-My Natural Battle with Cancer that is available on Amazon.

Join us while Debra Melamed interviews Leslie about her incredible journey.

How mindset makes all the difference:

3:01-3:35 What if we could shift the mindset of cancer being scary and instead see cancer as a messenger of hope and love that has come to teach you something about yourself, and become a cancer boss.
6:41-46 There are studies the show that when you hear the word cancer in your name that your immune function drops 50%.

You are what you eat:

18:21-29 I teach people that the ultimate goal is to eat a 90% plant-based diet.
22:40-23:38 Im a huge fan of the alkaline broth, and the mineral broth recipe from the Hungry For Health book. For people in active treatment, the mineral broth in particular is so healing. My clients that use it are head and shoulders above in their recovery. It is fantastic and just as important as anything else they are doing.

How BeatCancer.Org Holistic Cancer Coach Certification changed Leslies life:

25:08-25:22 Beat Cancer’s holistic cancer coaching course has helped me with my own mindset. Things I closed the door on were opened back up. I use a lot of resources from the course. It really elevated my practice.
25:42-26:04 If you are thinking about doing this class stop thinking and and do it. It will change your relationship with cancer. It will change the way you think about how you help people. It is so incredibly empowering.
27:00-32 I refer to my notebook from the course all the time. If there is something I have never heard of I know Susan has said it in the course. I find what I need every time. She helps me help people and her legacy will live through every one of us in a way that is life-changing.
27:38-46 There are a lot of celebrity types to there right now trying to sell their story about beating cancer, but Susan truly knows the path.

Start believing in yourself and thrive after cancer:

31:12-27 I speak to people from my heart and encourage them and believe in them when nobody else is believing in them, not their doctors, not their family.

44:35-59 Cancer is here to teach you your purpose, to check your lifestyle and your relationships, and everything that is going on in your life that is affecting you. It is an opportunity to move into your perfect life. 

WARNING: Mammograms may do more harm than good according to leading experts... and The American Cancer Society agrees. Thermography is the answer.

In this interview with Dr Philip & Liesha Getson, you will learn TRUTH about Mammograms and how To avoid Misdiagnosis Leading To Unnecessary Breast Cancer Treatment.

There are so many golden nuggets, it worth listening all the way to the end.

------------------------------ ------------------------------ ----------- What is Thermography? How safe, and effective is a Thermogram? ------------------------------ ------------------------------ -----------

2:27 Thermographic cameras are FDA cleared and totally safe. It is a screening tool for breast health as well as thyroid, dental and neuromuscular issues. It is done without the radiation and compression inherent to mammograms.

*3:12-23 Thermographic evidence abnormalities can occur 7-10 years before a mammogram will find a tumor the size of a pencil eraser.

------------------------------ ------------------------------ ----------- Why are mammograms less effective and potentially unsafe? ------------------------------ ------------------------------ -----------

5:23 Only then is it palpable or readable on a mammogram and thats really too late.

*6:08 The compression of a mammogram is about 44 lbs of weight and it only takes 30 to rupture the capsule of a tumor. 7:11Then you are hitting the damaged cells with a very focused amount of radiation.

18:46 Mammograms are inconclusive with dense breasts

------------------------------ ------------------------------ ----------- What is the biggest hazard of getting mammograms (it's not what you think)? ------------------------------ ------------------------------ -----------

*20:43-21:35 The biggest harm of mammograms is over diagnoses. Tiny lesions that would never cause a woman a problem are being treated with chemo, radiation and surgery, doing more harm with treatment than would ever be from cancer.

*21:39-21:58 Statistically 85% of all micro calcifications are benign. The other 15% are so slow growing they would never cause a woman a problem.

*22:01-09 The American Cancer Society states that we are over diagnosing and over treating.

------------------------------ ------------------------------ ----------- How are mammograms causing more harm than good? ------------------------------ ------------------------------ -----------

*22:32-23:59 People are getting treated for DCIS Ductal Carcinoma in Situ. They are supposed to take the word carcinoma out because its not breast cancer. People are getting chemo and radiation for something that’s not even breast cancer. It’s criminal.

24:28-36 5-6x/year we will see women come in for thermograms that have had mastectomies for DCIS and they don’t have cancer.

*24:57-25:41 The Cochrane Group studied 2000 women who had annual mammograms for 10 years. That’s 20,000 mammograms. The number of women whose lives would be saved is one. The rest were under or over diagnosed, or whose tumors were so slow growing that they would have no impact on their life.

*26:13-21 The best way to never get cancer is to never get a mammogram.

29:08-22 When you read the medical literature its not something that should have been done in the first place. It should be done through diet and lifestyle modification and monitoring

------------------------------ ------------------------------ ----------- What can any woman do, everyday, to lessen the risk of Breast Cancer? ------------------------------ ------------------------------ -----------

29:34-30:11 Diet and lifestyle modifications-removing underwire bras 38:09 because it causes lymphatic congestion.

30:26-35 The lymph system pushes toxins out of the body so you want the breasts to be able to move and not be constricted in a tight bra with an underwire. 30:40 People do rebounding, exercising, walking to move toxins out through the lymph 30:54 You don’t want to use an antiperspirant because you don’t want to stop your body from sweating and you don’t want aluminum

32:09-33 Beat cancer brochure reads 90% of all cancers can be eliminated through diet and lifestyle modification and science agrees. Eat real food, organic, non-GMO. Mostly a plant-based diet. 34:43-58 We are 70% water so we need to make sure we’re taking in enough water, half your body weight in ounces of filtered water.

------------------------------ ------------------------------ ----------- Early detection is good, earlier detection is better… ------------------------------ ------------------------------ -----------

38:07 Thermograms are so great because it detects tumors 7-10 years ahead of time.

38:45 The stress connection. Stress increases cortisol and affects hormones. It also increases pain and decreases the body’s ability to fight infection and disease

------------------------------ - AND MUCH MORE ------------------------------ -

These tests are for people with a cancer diagnosis that are considering chemotherapy, have had traditional treatment that has failed them, or for someone who has had a reoccurrence. Their tests detect genomic alterations on cancer tumor cells’ DNA. They help your doctor to identify more potential treatment options than other available tests because they analyze all genes known to be relevant in human cancers. The test report includes the identified genomic alterations and provides information on which targeted therapies, immunotherapies, or clinical trials are a match.

This personalized approach makes getting the right treatment for your personal cancer possible, saving patients time, money, and the repercussions of negative side-effects from broad-based treatments.

They offer 3 different test that must be ordered by your doctor, FoundationOne Heme (for leukemia, lymphoma, and myeloma), FoundationACT (liquid biopsy when a tissue biopsy is not possible), and FoundationOne Cdx (primarily for non-small-cell lung, breast, prostate, colorectal, melanoma, and ovarian cancers) 

For more information go to
You can learn more about this test and others by taking the Cancer Free University Course. It is 50% through this link


Survivor, mentor, and advocate Erin Ley was diagnosed with non-hodgkins lymphoma at the age of 25. She was given a grim prognosis and told she would never have children. She is here today at the age of 52, with 3 miracle children and a story of hope and healing.

She is the force behind the summit, Thrive Onward and Upward With Cancer. The summit features 21 extraordinary experts who bring holistic medicine and traditional medicine together to help anyone with cancer to improve their quality of life.

TEDx speaker, author, and cancer recovery specialist Avinoam Lerner has a thriving practice in the Boston area. His innovative approach to healing is based on the fact that cancer is a whole body process. Treatment only applied to the physical body separates one’s physical and emotional being leaving treatment incomplete. Therefore, it is equally important that cancer patients be given resources to support the emotions they are feeling so they can become empowered. Avinoam offers these vital resources in his 6 week online Cancer Wellness Mastery Program.

Join us for this podcast, and learn

  • how your mind and emotions affect your recovery
  • how to access the tools needed to become advocates for one’s own health.
  • how to harness your inner resources to feel connected and empowered
  • details about his Cancer Wellness Mastery Program, it’s benefits and how to take advantage of this valuable program

Dr. Peter Osborne, often referred to as “The Gluten Free Warrior”, is one of the most sought after alternative and nutritional experts in the world. He     is the clinical director of Origins Health Care in Sugar Land Texas where his practice centers on helping nutritionally support those with painful chronic degenerative and autoimmune problems using natural methods.

He is a nationally recognized leader in functional medicine and one of the worlds leading authorities on gluten sensitivity. He lectures nationally to both the public as well as doctors on this and many other nutritionally related topics. He is the founder of the The Gluten Free Society, the author of The Gluten Free Health Solution and the author of the best selling book, No Grain No Pain.
Dr. Osborne has served as the executive director and the vice President for the American Clinical Board of Nutrition and he is on the advisory board         for Functional Medicine University. He has been featured on Fox News, CBS, PBS,, The Gluten Summit, The Truth About Cancer, The Journal of Gluten Sensitivity, and many other nationally recognized publications.
You can find him at and on Facebook. And please pick up a copy of his book No Grain No Pain.
Join us for this podcast and learn about:
  • Autoimmunity as a precancerous condition 
  • Triggers for cancer 
  • Nutrient deficiencies and cancer 
  • Testing to identify root causes 
  • Functional medicine for healing 
Direct download: BC-040_Beat_Cancers_Debra_Melamed_interviews_Dr._Peter_Osborne.mp3
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Cherie Calbom, M.S. is a leading authority on nutrition, souping, juicing and detoxification. Known as The Juice Lady, George Foreman’s nutritionist, TV chef and celebrity nutritionist, she has helped in pioneering the fresh juice movement around the world. Now she’s pioneering the hot new trend called souping. She is the author of 34 books including her latest Souping Is The New Juicing.

Join us for this podcast, and learn

  • The difference between blending and juicing and what the benefits are for each.
  • How fresh juices can balance the body’s pH and aid in healing from cancer
  • The best vegetables to juice and her favorite juice combinations
  • What a juicer does and how to pick the best juicer for your needs 
Direct download: BC-038_Debra_Melamed_interviews_Cherie_Calbom.mp3
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 Join us for this podcast, and learn about:

  • How to trust your intuition as a parent when making decisions regarding your child’s health. 
  • Alternative methods that were successful for their son Ryder. 
  • Methods of implementing alternative treatments with a small child. 
  • Why was started and how it can be a great resource for practical application of integrative approaches to cancer for parents of children with cancer. 

Please visit, Facebook and YouTube for a wealth of information and inspiration if you have a child with cancer.

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At the young age of 32, Elissa was diagnosed with Hodgkin's Lymphoma. Following the advice of herdoctor, she began radiation but quickly realized that her body needed nourishment and that her fast paced stressful lifestyle needed to change.  Elissa began her healing journey by eating a plant based diet, juicing and practicing yoga.  Within a few months she was feeling better and cancer free.  Unfortunately, several years later her husband was diagnosed with Non-Hodgkin's Lymphoma.  Marc chose a different route for his treatment.  Marc immediately began chemotherapy and radiation, spending the next 18 months in and out of the hospital as his immune system severely weakened.  At the age of 45 he died of an infection that his body could not fight.  

Join us for this podcast and learn about:

  • Elissa's knowledge and experience with cleansing
  • Lifestyle changes she has made after cancer 
  • What ingredients she juices with and what they are good for
  • Why she wrote Cancer Hacks and what is in it for anyone dealing with cancer.
Learn more about Elissa Goodman on her website.  Feel free to ask Elissa a question.  Order her book Cancer Hacks 
Elissa has wonderful recipes and healthy tips on her website as well.  



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Missie began her career as an RN. While working in the operating room she pulled the ligaments on her right side. Unable to find relief through medication she began researching other ways to manage her pain. She currently helps support patients in combining traditional medicine with natural care to support patients in managing pain and stress. Missie is also a BeatCancer.Org Certified Holistic Cancer Coach and combines these skills to support our body's health and complement any medical care.

Join us for this podcast and learn about:

  • Her road from traditional medicine to “out of tmishe box” healing solutions for pain management 
  • The wellness tools she used: Reiki, Thermal Therapy (BioMat) and Pure Essential Oils 
  • What is Reiki and how can it be used as part of stress management? 
  • What is a BioMat and how does it work? 
  • What health benefits you get from essential oils? 

Learn more about Missie and her practice at

Direct download: BC-036_Debbie_Melamed_Interviews_Missie_Mellen.mp3
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Beat Cancer's Debbie Melamed interviews Prudence Sinclair, a 28-year cancer survivor of malignant melanoma who walked away from traditional medicine after several surgeries and the option of chemotherapy to research alternative options.

Join us for this podcast and listen to what her diagnosis taught her and how she feels it can help others diagnosed with cancer.


  • Why was cancer Prue's wake up call
  • What she learned from Dr. Bernie Segal to put into her daily practice.
  • What was the tragic moment that occurred in your life before your cancer diagnosis? 
  • How does your emotional health play a role in cancer? 
  • Chemotherapy and melanoma
  • Three stages of emotion that you go through when you've been diagnosed with cancer.


Prue is offering her course, "Save Your Life" System to all BeatCancer.Org subscribers at a discount.  Click here to read more.

Read more about Prudence on her website 

Beat Cancer's Debbie Melamed interviews Prudence Sinclair, a 28-year cancer survivor of malignant melanoma who walked away from traditional medicine after several surgeries and the option of chemotherapy to research alternative options.

Join us for this podcast and listen to what her diagnosis taught her and how she feels it can help others diagnosed with cancer.


  • Why was cancer Prue's wake up call
  • What she learned from Dr. Bernie Segal to put into her daily practice.
  • What was the tragic moment that occurred in your life before your cancer diagnosis? 
  • How does your emotional health play a role in cancer? 
  • Chemotherapy and melanoma
  • Three stages of emotion that you go through when you've been diagnosed with cancer.


Prue is offering her course, "Save Your Life" System to all BeatCancer.Org subscribers at a discount.  Click here to read more.

Read more about Prudence on her website 

Beat Cancer's Debbie Melamed interviews Prudence Sinclair, a 28-year cancer survivor of malignant melanoma who walked away from traditional medicine after several surgeries and the option of chemotherapy to research alternative options.

Join us for this podcast and listen to what her diagnosis taught her and how she feels it can help others diagnosed with cancer.


  • Why was cancer Prue's wake up call
  • What she learned from Dr. Bernie Segal to put into her daily practice.
  • What was the tragic moment that occurred in your life before your cancer diagnosis? 
  • How does your emotional health play a role in cancer? 
  • Chemotherapy and melanoma
  • Three stages of emotion that you go through when you've been diagnosed with cancer.


Prue is offering her course, "Save Your Life" System to all BeatCancer.Org subscribers at a discount.  Click here to read more.

Read more about Prudence on her website 

Susan Barbara Apollon is a Pennsylvania psychologist in private practice for 30 years specializing in oncology, grief and trauma. Coming from a family of physicians and herself a 20+ year survivor of breast cancer, she is a researcher of mind, consciousness, energy, and the factors which contribute to healing. She is also an educator, speaker, and author of several books including Touched by the Extraordinary: Healing Stories of Love, Loss and Hope; Affirmations for Healing Mind, Body and Spirit; and, most recently, An Inside Job: A Psychologist Shares Healing Wisdom for Your Cancer Journey.

Listen to this podcast and hear Susan’s unique insights into:

  • How her approach to healing differs from that of most psychologists
  • Three key tools that anyone can access for healing from cancer
  • The difference between curing and healing
  • The relationship between love, grief and healing
  • Why being of service helps those with cancer to heal
  • Inspiring patient stories

For your autographed copy of An Inside Job, click here.


Bruce Lipton, Ph.D began his scientific career as a stem cell biologist.  He received his Ph.D. Degree from the University of Virginia at Charlottesville before joining the Department of Anatomy at the University of Wisconsin’s School of Medicine in 1973.  He is the bestselling author of The Biology of Belief.  Dr. Lipton joins us today to enlighten us on the science of epigenetics as it relates to cancer.

Join us for this podcast, and learn about:

  • What is epigenetics?
  • Where does 90% of illness come from?
  • What is the significance of the first seven years of life?
  • How do stress hormones shut down our immune system?
  • What is the difference between good stress and bad stress?
  • Placebo vs nocebo
  • How does the conscious mind work differently from the subconscious mind?
  • How do you reprogram your subconscious mind?

For more information about Dr. Bruce Lipton, visit his website at

Direct download: BC-033_Debbie_Melamed_Interviews_Bruce_Lipton_on_Epigenetics_and_Cancer.mp3
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It is a pleasure to share this interview with my long-term colleague Dr. Ralph Moss, former science writer and Assistant Director of Public Affairs at Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center. Dr. Moss authored or edited 12 books on cancer research and treatment, including The Cancer Industry, Questioning Chemotherapy, and Doctored Results. Writer of the award-winning PBS documentary “The Cancer War,” he currently creates The Moss Reports summarizing evidence-based treatments for 36 different cancer diagnoses.

Listen to this podcast, and hear Dr. Moss’ well-researched opinions on:

  • The cancer breakthrough of the year
  • The truth about Laetrile research at Sloan-Kettering
  • The immune system and spontaneous regression of cancer
  • When chemotherapy is and is not appropriate
  • The success of Insulin Potentiation Therapy
  • The most effective therapies currently in clinical use
  • The value of immune checkpoint drugs like Keytruda and Opdivo
  • The promise of cancer-killing viral therapy
  • How far we have come in the last 40 years and why he is optimistic

Suzy was diagnosed with thyroid cancer 8 years ago.  Having a background in public health and research, she followed the traditional route of a thyroidectomy and radiation, wanting to do all she could to rid herself of cancer.  After her treatments were complete, her scans still showed lymph nodes that were thought to be involved with the tumor.  Not comfortable with the alternatives given to her by her doctors, she began researching alternative ways to heal her cancer.  

Join us for this podcast and learn about:

  • How Suzy heard about holistic healing of cancer and her five "a-ha" moments
  • What therapies she used to heal herself
  • How and why Suzy started Healing Strong
  • What is Healing Strong and what do they do for others going through cancer
  • Who should reach out to Healing Strong and why
  • How to become a leader of a Healing Strong group
Learn more about Healing Strong at
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Verne Varona, author of Nature's Cancer Fighting Foods and Macrobiotics for Dummies joins us to share the 10 Essential Traits of a Self-Healing Person.  Verne is an internationally renowned keynote speaker and studied Traditional Chinese Medicine (TCM) and nutrition at the East West Foundation in Boston.

Listen and learn about the essential traits that people who have healed themselves from degenerative diseases share; what it really takes to heal; and how to navigate through the overwhelming waters of alternative solutions.

To learn more about Verne Varona, the author, speaker, and health education visit

At the age of 26, Cortney was diagnosed with a rare Stage 2 NLP (nodular lymphocyte-predominant) Hodgkin's Lymphoma. Facing chemotherapy and radiation with a possible side effect of infertility, Cortney and her husband asked the oncologist what alternative treatments were available. After being told there was no alternative, Cortney and Kevin began researching alternative therapies to cure her cancer. Upon finding Bill Henderson's book Cancer Free: Your Guide to Non-Toxic Healing, Cortney began her natural non-toxic journey of healing herself.

Join us for this podcast, and learn about:

  • What protocol Cortney used and continues to use to keep her cancer free
  • How Cortney learned to listen to her body and honor herself
  • What she did during her three pregnancies to stay on her path of healing
  • The challenges she faces on a daily basis and how she overcomes them
  • Her part in creating Healing Strong and how to start a Healing Strong support group
  • Learn more about the Beta Glucan that Cortney takes daily.
Read more about Cortney on her website or her Facebook page  

Leigh Erin Connealy, MD is Founder and Medical Director of Center for New Medicine in Irvine, California. She opened the Cancer Center for Healing in 2015 and is releasing her book, The Cancer Revolution in 2017. In her forthcoming publication, Dr. Connealy explains her groundbreaking integrative approach to both treating and preventing cancer and discusses the practical strategies of her cancer program that has helped thousands of patients.

Join us for this podcast, and learn about:

  • How to create an anti-cancer environment
  • What is the best water to drink and why
  • What is the Ketogenic Diet
  • How stress affects your DNA
  • What are the best foods to eat 
  • How to keep our toxic load down

Dr. Connealy's new book, The Cancer Revolution can be pre-ordered on If you go to and designate the Center for Advancement in Cancer Education, a portion of your purchase now and all purchases going forward will support our charity!

Jared Buces was born with a heart defect and underwent a heart transplant at the age of four. To prevent rejection, he was forced to constantly take immune-suppresive drugs, In 2014, when he was 16, an emergency appendectomy, at the age of 16, revealed that Jared had stage 4 Hodgkin's Lymphoma and he immediately began chemotherapy. His doctors told him that if he didn't follow through with his treatments he would be dead in 6 months, but one round of chemo produced such severe side effects that Jared felt he was going to die anyway. Jared prayed and his mom Lisa researched and together they decided to attack his cancer naturally. He is now cancer-free.


Listen to this amazing story of how Jared chose to follow his gut and begin a natural healing process to combat his cancer.

Join us for this podcast and learn:


  • What exactly happened to Jared after just one round of chemotherapy
  • What the nutritionist at the hospital began feeding him to help his failing kidneys
  • The difficulties of taking your child out of doctor-ordered medical treatments
  • How Jared and his mom healed him with juicing, rebounding, clean eating and an infrared sauna
  • About Jared's cancer free life at the age of 19, his challenges, and his mission to help others.

Jared and his mom Lisa also started a Facebook page called Kid Against Chemoto share their story and to teach others what they learned on their cancer journey.

You can order Jared's autobiography and read more about his journey on his website:

Jackie Roberge is a certified Holistic Cancer Coach through and creator of her own CancerShift coaching program. She is also a certified Life Purpose Coach and certified Yoga Instructor. For over 22 years, she has been practicing and teaching yoga and Transcendental Meditation (TM). Jackie specializes in and is passionate about working with cancer patients. She has created and led an eight-week yoga program for breast cancer patients at a Montreal hospital and has been leading small group workshops and teaching courses at the West Island Cancer Wellness Centre for the past six years. During that time, she has positively touched the lives of hundreds of cancer patients. Jackie has developed over 10 different guided meditations and visualizations, many specifically for cancer patients.

Check out Jackie’s special Meditation Package for Cancer PatientsThis bundle has 7 different meditations, including Pre-Surgery Meditation, Meditation During Surgery, Immune Booster Meditation, Chemo Meditation, Deep Healing, Sweet Dreams Sleep Meditation, and Mini-Meditation. It also features an e-book on the benefits of meditation and visualization as well as guidelines on how to start your own daily meditation practice. Normally priced at $19.97, it is available for a special discount of $5 if you use the coupon code BCmeditate (all one word). Order

Listen to Jackie’s interview and learn:

  • the key physical, emotional and spiritual benefits of meditation
  • what do cancer and pain have in common
  • the two most important messages that cancer usually brings
  • the top non-nutrient that boosts your immune system
  • three reasons fear is dangerous for cancer patients and what to do about it
  • the most important questions to ask when you are diagnosed with cancer
  • why cancer can be your greatest teacher
  • how to find the hidden gift in a cancer diagnosis

Last October, I wrote about Jackie’s live course Cancer: Friend, Foe or Messenger, and I’m delighted to tell you that her course is now online, on demand, self-paced and much less expensive! It’s also one of the most important steps any cancer patient can take.

Sign up for Jackie’s e-course and learn how to shift:

  • From seeing cancer as a life-threatening disease you want to get rid of at all costs to a potentially life-enhancing experience for which you are grateful
  • From fear and anxiety to acceptance and empowerment
  • From anger and frustration to peace, non-judgment and curiosity
  • From thinking your body has let you down to trusting its wisdom and healing power
  • From pleasing others to listening to and voicing your own needs
  • From being hard on yourself to being self-loving and self-nurturing
  • From treating cancer as the enemy to seeing cancer as a welcome messenger
  • From feeling sad and discouraged to discovering what makes you passionate and ignites your spirit!

Take this course and gain:

  • A completely different view of your cancer and an understanding of why it appeared in your life
  • Confidence that you are taking important steps to facilitate deep & lasting healing
  • Empowerment – knowing that you are making a difference everyday in terms of your healing
  • Ability to listen to your body and respond to its call for attention
  • Insight into the personality profiles of cancer survivors versus cancer thrivers
  • Understanding of the most detrimental types of stress and how to avoid them
  • Ability to love yourself and put your needs first - without feeling guilty!
  • More passion, energy and inspiration to create a vibrant, dynamic, fulfilling life

Leigh Erin Connealy, MD is Founder and Medical Director of Center for New Medicine in Irvine, California. She opened the Cancer Center for Healing in 2015 and is releasing her book, The Cancer Revolution in 2017. In her forthcoming publication, Dr. Connealy explains her groundbreaking integrative approach to both treating and preventing cancer and discusses the practical strategies of her cancer program that has helped thousands of patients.

Join us for this podcast, and learn about:

  • What is cancer and why is it a whole body disease
  • How do chemotherapy and radiation play a part in a cancer diagnosis
  • How vitamin and mineral deficiencies create an environment for cancer
  • Why mind, body and spirit all need to be addressed as a component of every illness
  • What are the causes cancer
  • What are invisible electrical energy webs
  • What is xenoestrogen and how does it affect us
Dr. Connealy's new book,The Cancer Revolution can be pre-ordered on If you go to and designate the Center for Advancement in Cancer Education, a portion of your purchase now and all purchases going forward will support our charity!

Linda L. Isaacs, MD, received her medical degree from Vanderbilt University School of Medicine and completed her residency at New York University Medical School. Board Certified in Internal Medicine, she practices in New York City. For more than 20 years, she worked with her colleague, Nicholas J. Gonzalez, MD [ ], using a nutritional approach for treating patients diagnosed with cancer and other degenerative diseases, and together authoring the book The Trophoblast and the Origins of Cancer. Since his untimely death in 2015, she has continued the work that they shared. Listen to this extremely informative podcast and learn: • The value of a metabolic approach to cancer • Three key components of individualized nutritional protocols for cancer • Why vegetarian diets are not appropriate for all patients • Which types of cancer patients need animal protein • The history of the Kelley and Gonzalez methods • What really went wrong with their clinical research trial • The surprising connection between pregnancy and cancer • The historic role of coffee enemas and pancreatic enzymes for cancer • Fascinating case histories of patients who took no orthodox treatments • Impressive results with pancreatic cancer patients even 15 years out • Which patients are not candidates for this program If you are interested in Dr. Isaacs program you can learn more at However, if you find that you are not eligible for the program or cannot afford the costs, do not despair that you can’t get well – there are still many, many options out there for you, starting with an individualized consultation from one of our certified counselors. Feel free to contact us at 888-5511-2223 or through our website.

Board-certified in internal medicine, Ron Weiss, MD, is a primary care doctor in New Jersey and Assistant Professor of Clinical Medicine at Rutgers University Medical School.Trained in allopathic medicine, he changed his focus to an integrative medicine approach after the death of his father from end stage metastatic pancreatic cancer. Dr. Weiss had been instrumental in altering his father's diet post diagnosis, and within days, his father returned to work, the gym and running. Although his father later died of his disease, he lived much longer than expected and had shrunk his tumor by 50% prior to his passing. 

Join us for this podcast and learn:

  • How Dr. Weiss used a macrobiotic diet to relieve his father's pain and reduce the size of his tumor.  
  • What is the Ethos Diet?  
  • What's unique about Dr. Weiss's 275-year-old, 342-acre farm in New Jersey?  
  • Where does he get his seeds and what does that mean for the produce grown there?  
  • What happens to disease when you eat a whole food plant-based diet?  
  • What often causes gene mutations that result in cancer?  
  • What are the most powerful foods you can eat to prevent illness?

Maria Uspenski is the Founder and Owner of The Tea Spot in Colorado.  Maria was diagnosed with ovarian cancer over 12 years ago. As a young, single, mother leading a healthy lifestyle, she was shocked by the life altering diagnosis. Tea had always been  a grounding ritual that she took comfort in every afternoon.  When her treatments were over she asked herself, “What did I do wrong to get here?”. The more she researched the more she learned about ways to lead an even healthier lifestyle, and the more she read, tea was part of the answer.


Join us for this podcast, and learn about:

  • How she used tea to help in her battle. What are the chemicals in tea that help with cancer?  How much tea do we need to drink?  What type of tea do we need to drink?
  • What’s Matcha tea and how has it become part of her daily regime
  • Yoga, Meditation and tea
  • Amino acids exclusive to only tea and mushrooms
  • Lowering your stress hormones with tea
  • Tea vs Coffee


BeatCancer.Org has partnered with The Tea Spot to give our subscribers a 15% discount on all purchases at  The Tea Spot will also be donating 10% of all sales back to BeatCancer.Org to help in the continuation of our programs to help prevent, fight and beat cancer.  Please use the coupon code “cancerhatestea” at checkout to receive your discount. 



The link for The Tea Spot is:

Dr. Helayne Waldman, EdD, CNE, is an oncology nutrition expert and certified nutrition educator in private practice in Oakland, California. A teacher for over 25 years, she is currently on the faculty of Hawthorn University and the University of Western States Masters Program in Human Nutrition and Functional Medicine. She is the author of the bestselling Whole Food Guide for Breast Cancer Survivors and co-founder of the RENEW cancer survivorship coaching program.

Join us for this podcast, and learn about:

  • The four biggest challenges facing millions of cancer survivors
  • The most important thing cancer survivors need to know
  • What conventional oncology treatments leave unaddressed
  • Why the same program is not valuable for every patient
  • How to assess your risk factors for recurrence
  • How you can benefit from survivorship training


After cancer treatment of any kind, where you left wondering: What happens now? When will I get back to feeling like myself? What can I do so I never have to go through this again?

Well here is your roadmap: The RENEW! Live online Education and Coaching for Cancer Survivors program [LINK TO] starts Thursday, October 6 at 10 am Pacific time (1 pm eastern time). Facilitated by two expert cancer survivorship coaches with 55+ years of combined experience (Dr. Helayne and Dr. Susan), the coaching program comprises 10

weekly 90-minute live sessions covering

  • Nutrient depletion and restoration
  • Blood sugar and insulin levels
  • Inflammation control
  • Immune health
  • Toxicity elimination
  • Emotional healing
  • Hormones and bone health
  • How to turn knowing into doing
  • Q & A and more


Early bird discount by September 21 is $395, with an additional 10% discount for subscribers. Just go to and enter coupon code BC10 at checkout. Listen now as Educational Director Dr. Susan Silberstein interviews Dr. Helayne Waldman:

Mitchell Gaynor, M.D. is Founder and President of Gaynor Integrative Oncology, Assistant Attending Physician at New York Presbyterian Hospital/Weill Cornell Medical Center, and Clinical Assistant Professor of Medicine at Weill Medical College.  He has held the position of Director of Medical Oncology at The Strang Cancer Prevention Center where he still serves as a consultant.  He is also former Medical Director and Director of Medical Oncology at the Weill Cornell Medical Center Institute for Complementary and Integrative Medicine.  He has served on the Executive Review Panel at the Department of Defense – Alternative Medicine for Breast Cancer Sector and the Smithsonian Institute’s Symposium on New Frontier in Breast Cancer and the Environment.  He is a frequent speaker and lecturer at hospitals, conferences, and universities throughout America and abroad.  He conducts on-going healing sessions for patients and families using meditation and chanting with Tibetan bowls.  Dr. Gaynor is also the best selling author of four books and a CD focusing on healing, health and the environment and cancer prevention.

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Cancer Support Network Interviews Dr. Susan Silberstein

Cancer's Just a Word, Not a Sentence 

Elyn Jacobs and her guest host Sharon Roth-Lichtenfeld recently invited founder Susan Silberstein to be interviewed on the Cancer Support Network show "Survive and Live Well: Tips to Treat and Beat Cancer." Elyn and Sharon actually met a few years ago at a live cancer certification training that Susan offered at the BeatCancer offices.  Silberstein recently launched her online holistic cancer coach certification program. 

In the interview, Silberstein tells her personal tragic story that led her to found the non-profit, summarizes the mission of the Center for Advancement in Cancer Education, and describes the cancer counseling and cancer resources that the Center provides. She discusses key topics like:

  • Tumor reduction
  • Cancer survival
  • Quality of life for cancer patients
  • What cancer patients can do for themselves
  • Cancer and diet
  • Research on cancer and nutrition
  • The best foods to eat to prevent cancer
  • Fats and cancer
  • Omega 3 fats
  • The plant based diet
  • Cancer and stress
  • Emotions and cancer
  • Psychological health and cancer survival
  • Psychoneuroimmunology
  • Cancer and spirit
Direct download: Cancer_Support_Network_Interviews_Dr._Susan_Silberstein.mp3
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(Original air-date 07/07/14)

Family therapist Eleanor Bobrow speaks with Dr. Susan Silberstein, PhD, founder and president of

Listen in to this uplifting interview as they discuss:

  • Exciting cancer patient stories of hope and empowerment:
    > Ovarian cancer patient refuses hysterectomy and colostomy and fully recovers
    > Breast cancer patient rejects chemotherapy and  thrives her own way
  • How to take charge of your life and take control of your cancer
  • Besides what doctors can do, what cancer patients can do for themselves
  • How and why got started
  • How helps cancer patients
  • Cancer treatment protocols versus individualized programs
  • The importance of psychological health in beating cancer
  • Emotional stresses that contribute to cancer
  • Characteristics of patients who beat the odds
  • How to really get rid of cancer
  • Regaining comfort, control and choice when you have cancer
  • What does “terminal cancer” really mean?
  • Online holistic cancer certification training

Dr. Millie Lytle, ND, MPH, CNC, is a licensed Naturopathic Doctor and Certified Nutrition Specialist in practice in New York City as a member of Tournesol Wellness’ Primary Care Team. She is also the creator of Eating for Meaning, a unique self-guided nutrition program to transform people’s relationship with food, and co-creator of Naturopathic Doctors for es, which trains health coaches to become nutrition experts.

Join us for this podcast, and learn about these fascinating health fields and the important role that they can play in filling in the gaps of care left by most doctors:

  • Functional Medicine
  • Epigenetics
  • Nutrigenomics
  • Bio-Individual Transformation


You will also understand:

  • How these concepts all work together to benefit cancer patients and prevention seekers
  • Why cancer genes don’t necessarily affect our disease risk
  • Why cutting down on food intake isn’t really the answer to obesity
  • Why focusing on sugar-free, gluten-free and dairy-free food is not as important as you think
  • How to get a FREE mini-guide to organ detox
  • Four key principles of Eating for Meaning and how to get additional training


Dr. Millie’s Eating for Meaning Nutrition Training ] includes:

  • 8 inspiring self-paced audio lessons
  • 18 self-help exercises to change your relationship with
  • Eating for Meaning Workbook
  • 3- week detoxification progam
  • Customized recipes and meal plans
  • Weekly handouts, homework, exercises, and more


Discounted price for subscribers is just $299. Just go to and enter coupon code BEATCANCER at checkout.

"You beat cancer, or any chronic condition, by how you live, why you live
and what you eat to live." ~
Beth Schroeder

Beth Schroeder, MS, CNS, holds a Master of Science degree in Nutrition and Integrative Health and is certified in plant-based nutrition through Cornell University and the T. Colin Campbell Foundation. In private practice at Simply Health LLC in Moorestown, New Jersey, since 2009, Beth is an 18 year survivor of breast cancer and is certified as a holistic cancer coach [] through

Join us for this podcast and hear:

  • What Beth did to avoid her oncologist’s prediction of metastatic cancer within two years
  • How she turned around her increasingly plummeting blood counts a few weeks before she was to need a transfusion
  • What her oncologist said to her that made all the difference
  • A surprising 2013 statement from the World Health Organization
  • The amazing story of a stage 4 esophageal cancer patient with spread to lungs and liver who was given 6 weeks to live
  • What the research says about the influence of whole food nutrition on epigenetics
  • The value of nutrition alongside standard cancer treatment protocols
  • The fundamental role of immunotherapy [] for cancer
  • What Beth learned from org and why she endorses our holistic cancer certification training []

Listen now as Educational Director Dr. Susan Silberstein interviews Beth Schroeder about her personal cancer success story and how what she learned is helping her help others!


BC-018 Susan Silberstein interviews thermologist Dr. Philip Getson on the powerful role that thermographic imaging can play in helping women be proactive for their breast health


Philip Getson, DO, is a Board Certified Family Physician in practice since 1976 in New Jersey. The founder of Thermographic Diagnostic Imaging, he is an expert in medical thermography and has been certified by four thermographic boards. An international lecturer on thermographic testing and complex regional pain syndrome, he served three years as Vice President of the American Academy of Thermology.


Join us for this podcast, and learn some surprising answers to these questions:

  • How does thermography differ from anatomic testing like mammography?
  • How new is thermographic imaging technology?
  • Is there any research supporting its use?
  • What areas of the body can be studied by thermography?
  • How accurate is thermography?
  • Can thermographic imaging find breast cancer earlier than other tests?
  • How many lives are actually saved by annual mammograms?
  • Does conventional screening lead to overdiagnosis and unnecessary treatment?
  • Can routine mammograms actually increase risk of breast cancer?
  • Can thermography be helpful after cancer diagnosis?
  • Is DCIS really cancer?
  • What is the likelihood that microcalcifications are problematic?


To learn more about thermographic diagnostic services in Pennsylvania and New Jersey, visit, email, or call 856-596-5384. To learn about thermography resources elsewhere, visit, which lists certified thermologists by state.


Listen now as Educational Director Dr. Susan Silberstein interviews Dr. Philip Getson on the role of thermography in early detection and monitoring of breast and thyroid disease.

BC-017 Debbie Melamed interviews cancer hypnotherapist Avinoam Lerner on the power of the mind and how it can be your greatest ally in cancer recovery.


Avinoam Lerner is an innovative author, holistic health coach, and complementary medicine practitioner specializing in cancer recovery. He works with patients to strengthen their innate immune response through approaches such as hypnotherapy, Emotional Freedom Technique, and guided imagery. For people who want to participate in their own healing process, he offers cancer coaching and an Immune Enhancement Boot Camp. His practice is located in the Boston area and his book, The New Cancer Paradigm, can be found on his website. 

Join us for this podcast, and learn

  • The basics of psychoneuroimmunology and the mind-body connection
  • How cancer is more than just a malfunction of the physical body
  • New ways to participate in your own healing process
  • How to harness your mind’s creativity and intelligence
  • How Immersive Healing can boost immune function and improve cancer outcome.
  • Why deep-seated patterns from the past can affect your present health
  • How tapping into the subconscious mind can change your perceptions and free up your immune system
  • How the emotional freedom technique (EFT) can provide relief from emotional and physical discomfort

Lerner’s breakthrough methodology can be a life-saving resource for everyone fighting cancer – no matter what your cancer type, your cancer stage, or your cancer treatment. Order his book The New Cancer Paradigm: Mobilizing the Mind to Heal the Body today ( and listen now as community outreach director Debbie Melamed interviews Avinoam Lerner on the power of the mind as your greatest ally in cancer recovery.

BC-016 Dr. Susan Silberstein interviews Jenny Hrbacek, RN, on Safe, Effective Early Cancer Detection and Monitoring Tests

Despite annual checkups, negative mammograms, and clean bills of health, Jenny was diagnosed with invasive ductal breast carcinoma in 2009. After undergoing a double mastectomy, achieving clear surgical margins, taking chemotherapy, and getting a clean PET scan, she learned that she was NOT cancer-free. Today, she has launched a national campaign to change the way that cancer is detected. The research that she did changed her life and became the book that will change yours! Jenny Hrbacek, RN, is the author of Cancer Free! Are You SURE? ]: A Guide to Early Detection Tests, published in 2015.

Join us for this podcast, and learn about

  • Why Jenny fired her oncologists
  • Why chemotherapy often stops working
  • Non-invasive tests for monitoring cancer progress
  • The real key to cancer metastasis
  • True early detection tests more sensitive than standard testing
  • How to know if the treatment your doctor prescribes is really effective for your cancer
  • How to determine if the non-toxic cancer program you are following is working

Jenny’s book is an absolute Bible for everyone interested in true early detection, safe ways to monitor your risk for cancer recurrence, and whether the program you are following is working well enough. Order your copy of Cancer Free! Are You SURE? ] and listen now as founder and educational director Dr. Susan Silberstein interviews early cancer detection expert Jenny Hrbacek.

In 2003, at age 26, Chris Wark was diagnosed with stage IIIC adenocarcinoma of the colon, an invasive cancer involving several regional lymph nodes. After one-third of his colon was surgically removed, Chris learned that he had a 28% chance of surviving five years and that his expected recurrence risk was 100% within four years. Chris refused the recommended chemotherapy and instead turned to nutrition and natural therapies. Today he enjoys perfect health and educates people worldwide on nutrition and natural therapies through his blog site

Join us for this podcast, and hear

  • What Chris learned about chemotherapy and why he refused it
  • The amazing way that Chris ‘ prayers were answered
  • What Chris believes caused his disease
  • Some of Chris’ favorite natural therapies
  • Why taking nutritional supplements is not always the right path
  • How to achieve your best chance of getting well



Ty Bollinger lost both of his parents and several other family members to the ravages of conventional cancer treatment. That led him to pursue nationwide and worldwide journeys to research natural cancer therapies that culminated in his two documentary series “The Quest for the Cures” and “The Truth About Cancer. A published author and frequent lecturer, Ty has made it his life mission to share what he learned from the doctors, scientists and recovered patients he interviewed.  

Much of his message is what we have been teaching at since 1977.

Join us for this podcast, and hear Ty’s thoughts about

  • Why current cancer rates are skyrocketing
  • Why conventional oncology will never win the war on cancer
  • The real reason most doctors don’t know about natural therapies
  • Four potent natural therapies for cancer
  • Why Ty calls cannabis a superfood
  • A non-toxic treatment that kills cancer while protecting healthy cells
  • A virus that is selectively toxic to cancer cells
  • Effective herbal remedies for cancer

Listen now as founder and educational director Dr. Susan Silberstein interviews natural cancer cure researcher Ty Bollinger.

In 1993, Ann Fonfa was diagnosed with breast cancer. She underwent a mastectomy but refused chemotherapy and radiation. By 1997 her disease had progressed to stage IV, but she is now disease-free, thanks to the natural therapies she chose to pursue. Wishing to share with other cancer patients what she learned in her quest for options, Ann founded the Annie Appleseed Project, a Florida- based non-profit patient advocacy organization which frequently collaborates with

Join us for this podcast, and learn

• Ann’s amazing story from 25 tumors to full recovery

• The nutrient that blocks cancer via nine different pathways

• Why Ann says survival is a conscious choice • The role that Traditional Chinese Medicine played in her recovery

• The limits of clinical trials and the FDA drug approval system

• Details of the 10 annual Annie Appleseed Conference coming up Feb. 25

Nine years ago, Laurie Beck was diagnosed with a rare and incurable form of cancer – in fact, two types of cancer: non-Hodgkins B-cell lymphoma and marginal cell leukemia. Doctors told her she needed to start chemotherapy immediately. She didn’t, but three years later they could find no trace of cancer in her body. In this interview Laurie describes her healing journey using a combination of Western and Eastern medicine and alternative healing modalities. In the process, she learned many unanticipated lessons about herself and about life.

Join us for this podcast, and hear

  • Laurie’s inspirational story from diagnosis to recovery
  • Why second and third opinion oncologists are so important
  • The most important healing change she made in her life
  • Why Laurie calls her cancer “the best gift I ever received”
  • Eight lessons she learned from her illness

To encourage others with cancer who have lost hope and to inspire them to persevere, Laurie wrote a personal memoir, I Am Living to Tell.

Seventeen years ago, Richard Wiebe was diagnosed with a deadly stage IV brain tumor known as glioblastoma multiforme, an extremely aggressive disease with a five-year survival rate of only one to five percent.   Declared “incurable” with an expected prognosis of six months, Richard had surgery, chemotherapy, and radiation and then developed a rare secondary cancer caused by his treatment. But the natural therapies he pursued made all the difference and Richard now celebrates his 17th year of survival in vibrant health! 

Dr. T. Colin Campbell, a specialist in researching the effects of diet on health. Professor Emeritus of Nutritional Biochemistry at Cornell University and one of the lead scientists for the China-Oxford-Cornell Diet and Health Project, he is  the author of numerous books including The China Study and Whole and was featured in the acclaimed documentary Forks Over Knives. Also check out Dr. Campbell’s new documentary film designed to tell you “what you really need to know.”From the producer and writer of the acclaimed documentary film Forks Over Knives, PlantPure Nation tells the story of three people on a quest to spread the message of one of the most important health breakthroughs of all time. When Dr. Campbell inspired Kentucky State Representative Tom Riner to propose a pilot program documenting the health benefits of a plant-based diet, they inadvertently set in motion a series of events that exposed powerful forces opposed to change. After industry lobbyists killed the pilot program, Dr. Campbell’s oldest son Nelson decided to try his own grassroots approach as film director. PlantPure Nation was filmed across the USA and features world-renowned experts, doctors and authors.  It can be seen in theaters this summer. (2015)

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In 1990, Jennifer Jackson was diagnosed with a rare bone cancer known as osteosarcoma, an aggressive disease with one of the lowest survival rates among pediatric cancers.  Despite major surgery and aggressive chemotherapy, her prognosis was poor, and the likelihood was great that she would develop a secondary cancer years after treatment. And yet, this year, Jennifer celebrates her 25th year of survival in vibrant health!

Join us for this podcast, and hear

·      Jennifer’s amazing story, not only of surviving but also thriving

·      How she has continued her athletic accomplishments with only part of her left leg

·      Why her oncologists are so surprised to see her doing so well for so long

·      How a shift in thinking about the effect of food choices on her body made all the difference

Jennifer Jackson wasn’t just lucky – she also chose to be well! If you are dealing with cancer, listen to this podcast and be inspired by Jennifer’s story of hope and empowerment. 

Best-selling author of Heal Breast Cancer Naturally, Dr. “V” has spent more than 30 years in the wellness field as a holistic practitioner.  Through her vast research and clinical experience with non-toxic approaches to breast cancer, she has helped thousands of women.  In this podcast, she shares with her listeners

·      Her personal breast cancer healing journey

·      Common breast cancer myths that keep women in fear

·      Non-invasive early detection tests for breast cancer

·      Specific nutritional supplements that help fight breast cancer

Listen now and learn about

  • ·      The one supplement that can reduce breast cancer risk by 83%
  • ·      The common cancer drug that has been classified as a human carcinogen
  • ·      The #1 food to avoid if you want to beat cancer
  • ·      7 essential steps to healing breast cancer naturally

Dr. Rosenberg is a published author, radio and television personality, who has helped thousands of people quit smoking. Dr. Rosenberg recently joined the BeatCancer board of directors, and has landed a spot on Philadelphia’s Preston and Steve in the Morning, where he will do a live radio show by hypnotizing a studio audience into quitting smoking, and in the process promote the message. 


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Dr. Rosenberg is a published author, radio and television personality, who has helped thousands of people quit smoking. Dr. Rosenberg recently joined the BeatCancer board of directors, and has landed a spot on Philadelphia’s Preston and Steve in the Morning, where he will do a live radio show by hypnotizing a studio audience into quitting smoking, and in the process promote the message. 

Direct download: Dr_Rosenberg_on_WMMR_230_to_910.mp3
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In this podcast, Dr. Horner talks about the proven science behind protective strategies for breast cancer.  She covers many timely topics like:

  • Natural ways to cut your breast cancer risk  in half
  • Do mammograms really save lives?
  • How does breast thermography work?
  • Breast cancer and Flaxseeds
  • Soy and breast cancer
  • Phytoestrogens and estrogen receptors
  • Turmeric and green tea
  • Melatonin and breast cancer
  • Ayurvedic treatments to reduce toxins
  • AHCC medicinal mushrooms for immunity
  • Toxic relationships and breast cancer 
  • Protective Breast Formula

Top 10 Reasons to Avoid GMOs

An interview with Susan Silberstein, PhD

Eddie Miller, host of the “Ask the Expert Teleseminar Series,” interviewed Susan Silberstein on the Dangers of Genetically Modified Organisms (GMOs).  Miller formerly served as Board Chair of and Chief Operating Officer of the National Foundation for Alternative Medicine.

Genetic engineering enables scientists to create plants, animals and microorganisms by manipulating genes in a way that does not occur naturally.  Apparently, we can fool Mother Nature, but the joke may be on us!

Listen to this interview and learn about:

  • What are genetically engineered foods?
  • Top 10 reasons to avoid GMOs

·       Most genetically contaminated food crops

  • Effects of GM foods on animals
  • Health risks of genetically modified foods
  • Cancer causing effects of GMOs

·       Hidden GM ingredients in processed foods

·       Monsanto and Roundup

·       How to get more information on avoiding GMOs

Top 10 Reasons Not to Microwave

An interview with Susan Silberstein, PhD Eddie Miller, host of the “Ask the Expert Teleseminar Series” interviewed Susan Silberstein on the dangers of microwavingMicrowaving changes the chemical bonding and molecular structure of every food and beverage it touches.  At best, it creates compounds the body does not recognize as food, and at worst, it creates immuno-suppressive, mutagenic and carcinogenic compounds


Listen to this interview and learn about:

  • Top 10 reasons not to microwave
  • Research on microwave dangers
  • Health effects of microwaving
  • Cancer causing effects of microwaving
  • Practical strategies for avoiding microwave use
  • Simple suggestions for quick healthy eating

A candid and personal talk with Dr. Kelly Turner. New York Times best selling author of Radical Remission, as well as a researcher - and a speaker in the field of Integrative Oncology.